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Posted by DJMaytag on Apr-07-2003 21:19:

Is the term "shock and awe" the same as...

Is the term "shock and awe" the same as "blitzkreig"? I've been seeing some similarities between what the US is currently doing & saying and what Germany did in WWII.

Any thoughts?

Posted by occrider on Apr-07-2003 21:28:

Blitzkrieg - A revolutionary form of combined arms warfare whereby mechanized, mobile ground units are used in combination with close air support and motorized artillery to quickly overwhelm defenders.

Shock and Awe - Stupid media hype to ages old war concept to intimidate Iraqis.

If your going to compare WW2 to this war I would suggest you be more specific and provide explicit examples.

Posted by Abscond on Apr-08-2003 17:04:

Can't really compare the two since "Shock & Awe" never really took place due to the attempt to take out Saddam initially as a last minute decision before "Shock & Awe" was to happen.

Posted by malek on Apr-08-2003 17:54:

I don't really see a problem here. Blitzkeirg is a common military practice nowadays. And yes even the US army uses it.

Posted by occrider on Apr-08-2003 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
I don't really see a problem here. Blitzkeirg is a common military practice nowadays. And yes even the US army uses it.

Does the Seychellian army use it?

Posted by malek on Apr-08-2003 18:36:

how can you blitzkeirg without tanks and planes

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-08-2003 18:52:

Many modern military tactics come from the German attack (Blitzkrieg) style of WW2. Their tactics were the most advanced tactics of the time and still are relevent today. It's interesting to watch US military style and how they have evolved the Blitzkrieg style and Vietnam era anti-guerrella(sp?) style in the last few decades. It seems to be pretty darn effective.

Posted by malek on Apr-08-2003 18:54:

yeah those anti-guerilla war tactics in vietnam were very effective

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-08-2003 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
yeah those anti-guerilla war tactics in vietnam were very effective

You missed my point. I was saying how we learned from these tactics, not that we were effective at them back in the day. ahlamalek, you don't always have to be out to get me you know.

Posted by malek on Apr-08-2003 20:07:

in what form did the US evolve its guerilla tactics now? when they used orange agent, carpet bombing, decimating villages, raping, etc back in vietnam.

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-08-2003 20:32:

ahlamalek, you know what,

Fuck you.

Posted by Cyrus King on Apr-09-2003 03:15:

What an intelligent response from an intelligent person!

Ahlamalek.... you really shoved the truth in Fuzzy Greens mouth.. and he couldnt take it any more!

Posted by occrider on Apr-09-2003 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
What an intelligent response from an intelligent person!

Ahlamalek.... you really shoved the truth in Fuzzy Greens mouth.. and he couldnt take it any more!

I wouldn't go so much as to label it "truth". More like he frustrated fuzzygreen so much that he couldn't take it anymore.

Posted by malek on Apr-09-2003 03:35:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
ahlamalek, you know what,

Fuck you.

ROFL

Thanks man for this laugh... I really needed it

Posted by FuzzyGreen on Apr-09-2003 18:28:

I'm so fustrated at your ignorance.

ahlamalek what is your background please? How old are you? Where did you grow up? What is your education? What type of friends do you have?

You seem like a 18 year old, culturally isolated person, with little experiences in living.

Posted by malek on Apr-09-2003 20:12:

quote:
Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
I'm so fustrated at your ignorance.

ahlamalek what is your background please? How old are you? Where did you grow up? What is your education? What type of friends do you have?

You seem like a 18 year old, culturally isolated person, with little experiences in living.

yes! and let me be

Posted by Tranex02 on Apr-09-2003 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
yes! and let me be

stupid Seychellian!!!!

Posted by malek on Apr-10-2003 00:54:

ya go fuck yourself stupid syrian at least we don't hide Saddam Hussein like you terrorists

Posted by DaveSZ on Apr-12-2003 13:23:

^^^How is that any better than what fuzzy green said.

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
in what form did the US evolve its guerilla tactics now? when they used orange agent, carpet bombing, decimating villages, raping, etc back in vietnam.

They used to use Agent orange as a pesticide on foods here. I'm sure your parents ate some....

Vietnam war lasted many years...this one weeks.

Posted by brainfried on Apr-13-2003 14:07:

quote:
Originally posted by ahlamalek
ya go fuck yourself stupid syrian at least we don't hide Saddam Hussein like you terrorists

am i the only one who thinks that alot of TA's need to relax a bit? Is there a crack shortage where you guys live?