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Originally posted by Subtle if I listen to a good rock tune, its uplifiting to me, the same with another progressive track that i like.. simply cause i like it and it gets me in a good mood..

i agree.





btw, do you know any uplifting tracks?

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"Uplifing" is a word that describes an emotional state. What is "uplifting" to one person might not be to someone else, therefore that word cannot be used to name a genre of music.

"Melodic" means of, relating to, or containing melody. All trance is melodic, therefore the word "melodic" cannot be used to name a subgenre or even a group of tracks that sound similar.

This is common sense, or so I thought. Then again there are a lot of stupid people out there.

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I agree that "uplifting _____" isn't a genre, but I think that the adjective can be used objectively. Certain tracks are uplifting, i.e., they are cheerful and happy, whereas others are not. Of course there's a degree of subjectivity here, as personal taste cannot be disputed; regardless one could not say, e.g., that Delerium - Innocente is uplifting.

i think it would make more sense to classify tunes by what they AREN'T

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Originally posted by starglider I agree that "uplifting _____" isn't a genre, but I think that the adjective can be used objectively. Certain tracks are uplifting, i.e., they are cheerful and happy, whereas others are not. Of course there's a degree of subjectivity here, as personal taste cannot be disputed; regardless one could not say, e.g., that Delerium - Innocente is uplifting.

I find the build up.. the open-hi hats.. the driving percussions after the chorus uplifting!

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Originally posted by Radagast "Melodic" means of, relating to, or containing melody. All trance is melodic, therefore the word "melodic" cannot be used to name a subgenre or even a group of tracks that sound similar.

You say this like it is obvious fact, but it is not so. Definitions are not static; whereas your statement may have been true twelve years ago, trance has evolved and expanded to the point where the subcategorization of tracks into various subgenres is beneficial.

Melodic trance is, quite simply, trance centered around a melody. This differs from progressive trance and tech trance, for example, where the focus is elsewhere. These genres can be given different names, but they cannot be denied.

I was thinking about posting a similar topic. Uplifting can be applied to various genres in EDM. What most people mean to say is epic, instead of uplifting. It is very vague and too general to call something uplifting.

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Originally posted by starglider You say this like it is obvious fact, but it is not so. Definitions are not static; whereas your statement may have been true twelve years ago, trance has evolved and expanded to the point where the subcategorization of tracks into various subgenres is beneficial. Melodic trance is, quite simply, trance centered around a melody. This differs from progressive trance and tech trance, for example, where the focus is elsewhere. These genres can be given different names, but they cannot be denied.

No. You're wrong. The definition hasn't changed. Melodic is melodic. All trance is melodic. You're probably talking about ambient trance.

Most people here would call Leama & Moor - Requiem For A Dream melodic trance. Well it's not. It's ambient trance.

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Don't be daft. A lot of genres are a long way from uplifting, especially aggressive, dark and angry genres.

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I don't like the word epic either. Not all melodic trance is epic, nor is it uplifting. I really don't think there's a better way to describe the genre.

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Originally posted by Radagast No. You're wrong. Definitions do not change. Melodic is melodic. All trance is melodic. You're probably talking about ambient trance.

Definitions must change, or we must introduce new definitions, otherwise we can't hope to define music. Music changes, no? Then we must have a way to describe it.

Melodic is melodic, yes. All trance is melodic, yes. Distinctly different types of trance can, however, be recognized based on their musical properties, and thus categorized accordingly. The fact that you apparently wish to deny this process does not make it any less valid.