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theeyesofdarkness
dancing trancEaddict



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: santa monica, ca
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ok so theres all this talk of trance going progressive and if you were an idiot like me you wouldve thought this was a good thing(no offense to those who like it) but now that i know what progressive is i definitely do not want that to happen. but i think that even if it does go progressive that it wont stay that way for long cause i think that can grow old much quicker. cause the truth is people want music with energy and for me progressive just doesnt have the energy im looking for. i know a lot of you out there like progressive so i want to hear some opinions on this. ps- and i shouldnt have to say this but lets keep these comments constructive. this is not for bashing if your gonna bash on someone do it somewhere else thanks and xoxoxox to all.


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breakdown
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Registered: Jan 2001
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i agree with ya
progressive is good to an extent.. but personally... i like the uplifting/energetic side of trance as well.. and i would be very upset if it ALL went progressive..
but it hink there will always be those out there producing the uplifing/energetic trance some of us love..
i mean.. i can't see ppl like Airscape or Rank 1 going full on progressive..
but yea.. i think theres the good things to both genres =)


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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK
Read This! Speakin as the biggest prog-head in the world...

*bash* * bash*

I fuckin love progressive and i dont think theres much better, but i think it would be truly a shame for everything else to dissappear. I dont think it will, simply because trance has been renowned for its diversity, and if the rest were to melt into progressive we would lose that diversity. Again, a lot of ppl still dont know what constitutes a progressive tune.. progressive can have as much energy, if not more energy than your uplifting stuff (which is getting boring for me now, its been the same thing recycled for a year now) if u want truly energetic progressive trance, take a listen to uncle Timo, or get the new Gatecrasher album

It is such a wide kind of music with much more variety in it which is why i think its taking over from the (same old) uplifting. Here are some pretty energetic progressive TYPE tunes (prog spans over a lot of genres, tribal, trance, house, techno etc etc)

Corvin Dalek - Punds & Penz (Deutsche Mark Mix)
Mad Dogs - Better Make Room
Smoked - Metro (US Mix) *thx to infinity*
Satoshi Tomiie - Love In Traffic
LostIt.com - Animal
Agneli & Nelson - Vegas (Fear & Loathing Mix)

Ill stop now.. heheh, but seriously if uve heard the right prog at the right place, u wouldnt be sayin it doesnt create the energy but then again, each to his/her own

Peace


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theeyesofdarkness
dancing trancEaddict



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: santa monica, ca
oh yeah well take this *swift kick in the ass* :o)

yeah there is good progressive, just not most of it. hehehe. actually ive been trying to get love in traffic for a while and cant find it i really want to hear it. damn.


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Monk
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Registered: Apr 2001
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I personally think trance will never go all progressive. I think trance has died a bit of late, i blame producers like Agnelli and Nelson for constantly churning out commercial pap. Trance will always be around in the form its in today, its just progresive trance may have have a slight edge in airplay and such like. Lost it.com - animal TUNE.

Favourite trance tune of the moment.

Ivan - Gorki new remix.


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Viceroy
ilive4trance



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Hollywood, CA
King mmmmmmmmmm.....progressive

I fuckin love progressive now sooooo much! I have been going to a club in Toronto (System Soundbar) almost every friday in the past few months, seeing such talent as Parks and Wilson, Danny Howells and Breeder...not to mention their sick residents, Scaife and De-koze (who is no longer a resident )
I have also been listening to nothing but progressive...with names like those above, but also Warren, Diggers, Oliver Lieb, Steve Lawler. My friend and I were talking about it last night. I said how progressive is so simple, yet it is so intelligent it makes you want to move.

It is hard for me as a dj right now to figure out what I want to spin! I love my epic...and that is what I am used to playing out. However, I have began to start off my sets with the more techy side of the trance genre...I dunno..maybe I will be playing full blown progressive sets soon?

I love my epic, but progressive is taking me over!
Peace,
Steve

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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK
Drunk My arse hurts now..

Eyes if u wanna hear it, go on yahoo some time ill stream it u its fuckin class. Its all very subtle.. only energetic if u are in the right frame of mind u should find it on napster (just search for 'love in' in the track name feild)

It makes me laff sometimes how a lot of u say u hate prog (im talkin about the last time we had a thread similar to this) and yet u continue to love the new crasha album, and DJ's like nick warren, sasha, darren emerson, lucien foort etc etc... me thinks some of u are confused

OK if u need one tune to change ur mind about prog being boring, get Humate - Choose Life (Original Mix) if u havent already..

Peace


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TheDoctor
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Progressive

I started off as pure trance man, but over the last year i have been getting really into the progressive side, at first it was progressive house and i was happy to see it spreading over to the trance side. Some of the sets i have seen this last year by parks and wilson, burridge and richards and people like the excellent steve lawler & dave seaman showed that progressive does not have to be all deep and dark. Like someone said earlier progressive can be very diversive. But the steve lawler and seaman sets that start off nice and deep but by the end have the place lifting.
Put it this way there will always be your trance and euro trance ...but if there wasnt for these diversities there would be alot of repetiveness in the trance seen with too many dj/producers just remaking the same thing. But theres nothing to worry about Trance and euro-trance is as good as it ever was and progressive is just adding another level for those who want to go on a journey


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mizzuno
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: New York
This is what i don't understand..

Why does everyone here fell that progressive and trance are mutually exclusive and can't coexist with one another..now maybe its true that progressive is becoming popular right now, but i think its wrong to say that just because progressive is the "flavor of the month" that uplifting trance is gone...I think that uplifting remixers will always put an uplifting spin on a song no matter what.. just as the more progressive remixers will do their thing...now as for the Dj's they will play progressive but at the same time uplifting/epic trance will always have a place, just because its not as popular doesn't mean its gone..

Damn alarmists!
LOL

Mizzzzz

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IbAmbient
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: bliss...trance bliss.
word mizz

nothing is dying here, prog is just opening peoples eyes right now to something diffrent...and most of us like it. prog is nothing but energy..


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biznology
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Registered: Dec 2000
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I think a good deal of it has to with volume actually. Uplifting trance has a great disparity between buildups and climaxes. Prog doesn't really have this as much. When you crank it tho...well I think you get the idea. Try it. And I will use this as an excuse to plug the new Kleinenberg album again. TRY IT. CRANK the ******! peace.


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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Sheffield, UK

it has to be said, there are a lot of dj's/producers switching to the more progressive side now.. even the uplifting/epic god of the dex tiesto is playin prog now. i think this is solely because they are getting tired of the same old sound, and progressive offers a newer fresher feel to it and yeah, the louder the better!!!!

peace


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