I was just trying to think of the differences between normal mainstream music, and the underground EDM scene, and their different philosophies.

It just seems to me that EDM is not driven by a banker who is worried about his investment, but rather a wide range of producers and DJs who start their on labels, and promote "their sound".

which led me to the question, is there actually any money in releasing singles in EDM? These singles which we all drool over have very limited release in the grand scheme of things. Do record companies actually make money of EDM single realeses? Or are they just released to give the artist/producer/dj some coverage, and therefore get you into the club?

I guess the single biggest difference between main stream and underground is that the money is derived by live shows in EDM, and not albums sales.

there are plenty of producers that do not spin, or spin very often...

The bigger ones imo

MIKE
Airwave
Darren Tate
Kyau vs. Albert
Mirco De govia
Katana
John Graham
Andy Moore
Steve Helstrip


a lot of the time its just a part time job

Ralphie B...

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Then you have to look at people like Tiesto who release and DJ and have made tons of money.

I think its about how you market yourself really. If you want to stay "underground", then you're going to be stuck there. If you can reach out to the mainstream masses, then you will be able to profit.

However, this can also alienate your fans.

Fuck it, I'm babbling.

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Originally posted by placebo Then you have to look at people like Tiesto who release and DJ and have made tons of money. I think its about how you market yourself really. If you want to stay "underground", then you're going to be stuck there. If you can reach out to the mainstream masses, then you will be able to profit. However, this can also alienate your fans. Fuck it, I'm babbling.

haha, more babbling welcome!

I know if you really want to you can make loads of money, but am i correct to assume thats usually from touring and not the realases themselves?

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Originally posted by placebo Then you have to look at people like Tiesto who release and DJ and have made tons of money. I think its about how you market yourself really. If you want to stay "underground", then you're going to be stuck there. If you can reach out to the mainstream masses, then you will be able to profit. However, this can also alienate your fans. Fuck it, I'm babbling.

yea thats what pauls doing...

he admits it also

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Originally posted by sandstorm03 there are plenty of producers that do not spin, or spin very often... The bigger ones imo MIKE Airwave Darren Tate Kyau vs. Albert Mirco De govia Katana John Graham Andy Moore Steve Helstrip a lot of the time its just a part time job Ralphie B...

the bigger producers can prob. make some decent change but it seems like the vast majority of smaller producers are probably just eking out a minimum

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Originally posted by Konijn the bigger producers can prob. make some decent change but it seems like the vast majority of smaller producers are probably just eking out a minimum

depends if they own the label imo

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The vast majority of producers release tracks to boost their DJ profile, so they get booked more often and for bigger money. Others do it because they want dancefloor weapons that no other producers are providing.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J The vast majority of producers release tracks to boost their DJ profile, so they get booked more often and for bigger money. Others do it because they want dancefloor weapons that no other producers are providing.

is it just me, or is this happening less and less? It seems when a relativly unknown record gets noticed, everybody is pounding it soon enough.

it seems there are fewer and fewer special tracks, which only a select few have...

Maybe its because everybody seems to have moved on to progressive house because its cool now?

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Originally posted by AndskiSpeed Maybe its because everybody seems to have moved on to progressive house because its cool now?

Yeah, because that's all of EDM.

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Originally posted by AndskiSpeed Maybe its because everybody seems to have moved on to progressive house because its cool now?

that has absolutly nothing to do with the thread