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toka
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Registered: May 2001
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industry won the battle against piract, for good.

The end of an era may be quickly approaching. Brand new technology goes into widespread distribution on Tuesday that will change the very way commercial CDs are manufactured! Country crooner Charley Pride\'s new CD entitled A TRIBUTE TO JIM REEVES will be the first of its kind when it is released on Tuesday that will contain a special digital code designed to keep the music from being copied or uploaded to the Internet.
The copy-proof CD is just one response from the music industry to the rampant ripping of audio CD\'s to MP3s. SunnComm Inc., the Phoenix based company behind the copy-proof CD technology, insists that this new protection device does not affect the disc\'s audio component, only the disc\'s other data. Consumers will be able to play the new CDs anywhere they can plan unencrypted CDs. The only difference is that when the disc is inserted into a computer CD-ROM drive, efforts to rip the audio from the disc are halted.
Critics argue that consumers can still hook up a CD Player to their computers to record onto the hard drive, but this will always result in inferior recordings due to consumer based hardware, as well as the time issue it takes to perform this task. Don\'t be looking for a fix anytime soon, for this new technology is so highly developed. It is highly unlikely that anyone will be able to provide a crack to it any time soon.


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Old Post May-19-2001 21:24  Sweden
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lol.. as said in another post..
the code will be cracked.. even if its 128 bit.. it will!
as with DVDs


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DJ Sarah H
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Registered: Nov 2000
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yup
will soon be cracked

and there are always ways around stuff like that
as i said in the other post
copy the new type of CD to another audio Cd
rip the copied CD to MP3


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Eugene
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Now, guys, help me out here... See if you agree with the following. This is what I think about MP3, Napster, sharing, and trance, how it all fits together:

It seems to me that the whole trance genre is strongly linked to the idea of sharing music, by virtue of it being part of the whole dance/rave culture.

Consider the following: trance, techno, and electronic dance music together form a unique kind of music, CONSIDERABLY different from all other kinds. What's so unique about it, you ask? Well, in all other types of music, the persons in the spotlight are the authors or composers of the music. Take rock, for example. If there's a particular song you like, your attention immediately turns to the rock BAND behind it, doesn't it?

But with techno/trance the situation is much different; although the composers get some publicity it is the DJ, not they, who is in the spotlight. On the surface the DJ is secondary, but in the rave/dance culture he overshadows the composers. When a DJ releases a mix it is he who gets the credit for the good songs and not the little-known authors.

This brings me to another point: I seriously think no other genre of music boasts the same variety of authors and labels as does the "trance/techno scene." And many of these, if looked at from the pop- and rock- angles, could be considered "one-hit wonders." No wonder there's so much experimental and underground trance/techno music, and so little of it commercial.

Thus I think that the whole rave culture is unique, given the DJ's role and the multitude of authors, and it can't be put into the same categories as all other MP3's that people download. Think, for example, of the last time you bought a CD by a trance GROUP, or BAND, and not just a mix. Now compare this with CD's that are put out by rock stars and pop stars. Certainly, in the latter case, the music industry is very angry about MP3's. But I don't see how it can effectively apply the same arguments to the trance/rave genre.

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DJ Sarah H
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Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby
Hello!

Very good points well made !
and yeah i agree with you on everything u have said,
just that not all trance is underground
as u know there are many trance tunes that have made it into the top Ten of many countries charts
specily here in the UK
only thing is . . when a trance tune does make it big and into the charts it is often branded cheese
on the subject of cheese this is a quote from my GF Wicked Red "
"if u like it listen to it wether it is commercially successful should not be the measurement applied lol
the way i see trance is this it borrows from so many different genres that it appeals to a very wide base and there is nothing wrong with that at all "

of which i totally agree ( and not just cos she's my gf)

Many Trance composers already know that their work is going to be taken by other DJ's and then remixed
its kinda part of the genre
a lot of the DJ's do that to each other
EG Delerium - Silence
this was originally a tune by Sarah Mclachlin
taken by Delerium and turned into a trance tune
in turn that tune has been taken by the likes of DJ Tiesto
and airscape and remixed
each and every version of it was succesful
that form of shareing can only be good for the genre
each artist involved gets a share of the royalities from sales and also more exposure to the public

so for any of us to scoff at a commercially successful track is silly they do have to eat u know? so how can u blame them for seeking commercial success and wanting to hear their music played in clubs and on the radio? that is elitist and wrong

anyway the Point i am making is shareing of tunes is inherent in the trance genre by the DJ's and composers themselves so why not us too ?
we also need to support them by Buying their stuff or attending venues where they are spinning
so that way we get more of what we love
Trance


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ta_wilson
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well..yes..it is DEFINETLEY only a matter of time before it is cracked A short time most likely.

and here in the US, trance in 99.99% underground, u dont see any of it on the charts.
I think that artists who get al worked up about the copy right shit. Is is GOOD for the industry. This is most obvious in trance, but also in other genres. Many of my friends will down load a cd, and then , because they like go out and buy it... I think file sharing probably had lead to an increase in the purchase of cds. But fuking greedy people dont look any farther than their wallet, and get all worked up without looking at the potential gains.

ahhh..thank u!


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GOOD POINTS AL AROUND!

wel..yes..it is DEFINETLEY only a matter of time before it is cracked A short time most likely.

and here in the US, trance in 99.99% underground, u dont see any of it on the charts.
I think that artists who get al worked up about the copy right shit. Is is GOOD for the industry. This is most obvious in trance, but also in other genres. Many of my friends will down load a cd, and then , because they like go out and buy it... I think file sharing probably had lead to an increase in the purchase of cds. But fuking greedy people dont look any farther than their wallet, and get all worked up without looking at the potential gains.

ahhh..thank u!


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