i dont really consider a track cheese unless i hear it on the radio top 10 or something
mostly songs with a catchy beat with vocals like
ian van dahl
deedee
alice deejay
dj sammy
stuff like that

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btw i dont consider those tracks you listened cheesy

for some people it seems to be every track that's not good is cheesy

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I think everyone has their own opinion of what is cheesy and what isnt because not everyone listens to the same music. So there are alot of diferent opinions!So whatever workd for u, just because others call it cheesey it doesnt always mean it is!

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everyone who thinks that Lange-Drifting Away is cheese needs to have his/her ears examined! "Cheese" is not objective, i even saw someone in the forums claiming flight 643 was cheese ffs!what about peran van dijk-good time? do u think it's cheese?i loved it first time i heard it!peace.

Like the others have said, people have different ideas of 'cheesy'...to me, cheesy is a track which is extremely predictable, has few layers and just overall has that sound to it that makes me cringe - especially soppy vocals

As for those tunes you mentioned, Lustral - Broken (Way out West Mix) is definetly not cheese in my mind. Haven't heard the other two tho.

From a personal point of view.

There's no strict definition of what is "cheesy" really. In my opinion it's a word that is used to describe a track that is blatantly unoriginal and very formulaic or one that is poorly constructed. Which is why it often gets confused by people as anything that's mainstream, because most electronic music that gets high up in the charts or is strictly aimed to sell and nothing more, it is usually a very derivitive piece that has usually a somewhat catchy melody or a vocal hook. Having an open mind, if a track which has the aforementioned flaws happens to catch my attention and I like it then I will listen to it regardless of what other people say, and no matter how predictable it may be. If there's some "cheese" which I like, it usually has a sweet vocal to it and since I love vocals in my music much of the time it helps me overshadow what is technically wrong with the track. Of course there are tracks which are technically excellent which I just don't like and as I just stated there are tracks which are technically very unoriginal which I do like. So yes, there's "cheese" I like, and there's "cheese" I don't like.

"Cheese" I like:
Milk Inc
Lasgo
Peter Luts
and more...

"Cheese" I hate:
Too many tracks to list but Drunkenmunky and Jan Wayne is enough for me to even think about right now . I tend not to dig "cheesy" instrumental tracks at all. Anything by Svenson & Gielen, I can't stand at all.

Of course the "cheesy trance" I like will never be my favourite style. My favourites lie in The Space Brothers, Andy Ling, Evolution, Breeder, Max Graham, Humate, Qattara, Amethyst, Art Of Trance, Sunday Club and much more.

So basically, if people call tunes you like "cheese" then don't let that bother you. I see people calling tunes I like "cheese" all the time in this forum but I ignore them because that's their opinion, I have mine.

Hope that made sense, and hope I helped you.

Last edited by aloep on Dec-28-2002 at 14:48

Cheesy is anything that tries too hard to be something it isn't. There's a Brazilian DJ who I consider the master of cheese: DJ David. He's not popular (thank God), but I got to listen to one of his mix-tapes. He was mixing pop music and really wanted it to become "techno", so he added SEVERAL shouts, yays, boeings, ka-pews with the most stupid breakbeat I've ever heard in my whole life. Made me wonder what I had done to deserve such punishment
Cheesy is anything exaggerated (which includes extreme commercial appeal).

Among the tunes you listed, the only cheese one would be: Aurora - Ordinary World. It's a nice tune, but the commercial appeal here is obvious.

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Cheese = Happy sounding melodies

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Originally posted by robstar Cheese = Happy sounding melodies

NOT TRUE! So now all Uplifting vocal trance is cheese? No way! Seems like anyone that listens to solely progressive thinks uplifting is cheese. And I agree that cheese is when you hear it on the pop radio stations.

I love Lustral - Broken (Way out West Mix). So not cheese...

But does it really matter? Listen to whatever the hell you want to, and if someone is prissy enough to go off on it as being "cheesy", ignore them. They're assholes anyhow

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No! Most uplifting songs does not sound "HAPPY"

When I say Happy , I mean melodys that goes like this:

Na na naaa la di daaaaa! heh...

Melodies that has no emotional features, melodies that u can predict what the next note is going to sound like.
That's cheese!

Uplifting doesn't sound happy to me, it sounds emotional!

If everyone has a different definition of cheese then it is indefinable, instead of calling something "cheese" you should say what is wrong with it, predictable, happy, commercial, whatever…

Otherwise what's the point in calling a track cheese when everyone else has a different definition.

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