off topic as I am no judge,

but would you say this is your track, or suno's track? who owns it?

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Originally posted by szm off topic as I am no judge, but would you say this is your track, or suno's track? who owns it?

It depends - if they're paying a subscription, the user owns the rights. If it's the free version, suno has the rights to the track.

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so its never really yours, and theoretically they can change the terms on you?

From Suno's help pages: Home > Rights & Ownership > Ownership

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If you were subscribed with a Pro or Premier plan when the song was created, you are considered the owner of the song. You also retain the rights to commercial use for the song, even if you end your subscription. If you are using the free version of Suno (our Basic tier), we retain ownership of the songs you generate, but you are allowed to use those songs for non-commercial purposes, subject to your compliance with Suno’s Terms of Service.

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Originally posted by szm off topic as I am no judge, but would you say this is your track, or suno's track? who owns it?

Because I pay for Suno, my subscription terms grant me the commercial rights to pass the music off as my own product.

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Originally posted by mr.anderson Because I pay for Suno, my subscription terms grant me the commercial rights to pass the music off as my own product.

other than writing text prompts, what of it is your work in this track?

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Originally posted by szm other than writing text prompts, what of it is your work in this track?

It's a fair question. I didn't perform the instruments. My contribution was the music direction: I came up with the musical concept, wrote and refined the prompts, iterated through many generations, selected the best outputs, rejected weaker ones, and kept refining until the track matched the sound I had in mind. It's similar to directing a production rather than playing every instrument yourself. The AI generated the audio, but I made the music decisions that shaped the final result.

cool, im not one to judge; its basically working like tiesto. I'd imagine the large majority of the music being made will be done this way soon.

It's an interesting discussion. I've produced my own tracks, I've worked with an engineer and I've created with Suno (feeding it concepts I wrote in my DAW). There's definitely skill and creative direction involved in each approach.

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Yep, definitely sounds like a copy of something made by Paul van Dyk or ATB a quarter-century ago.

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Originally posted by Redstar It's an interesting discussion. I've produced my own tracks, I've worked with an engineer and I've created with Suno (feeding it concepts I wrote in my DAW). There's definitely skill and creative direction involved in each approach.

If it makes you happy its all good. personally I would never use it, im no pro nor have I ever made a track I was very perfectly happy with but I find a therapeutic response to controlling the process, especially with using hardware and bypassing the daw/computer experience, spent too much time on a computer.