This will likely be deleted but I hope that it reaches some of you and at least starts a bit of a debate among some of you.

I'm a former tranceaddict with a new name...

I frequented Guv, CZ and other spots depending on which DJ's were playing where.

The recent CZ raid made me think of my former (and fairly recent) life as a "partier" and thought MAYBE I could get through to even ONE of you out there. I'm mainly talking to you older partiers that just can't let go, grow up as a person (I don't mean that in an insulting way AT ALL), and accept your life beyond "the scene".

I did it and my life has never been better.

As much as it might be difficult for some of you to realize, you are in a downward spiral. I too didn't realize it while I was part of "the scene". My career was BIG TIME slipping (school AND career). I was doing graduate work and it almost fell apart on me.

I have family that went from being "at the top", well respected and doing well in life (happy and financially secure) and it DID fall apart completely for her. Totally hit the bottom of the barrel and is starting over completely.

Ask yourself these questions: I'm mainly targeting the "old partiers".

1. When I go out, am I one of the oldest people in the room?

2. Am I over thirty and most of my friends are in their early to mid 20's?

3. Are most of my friends that ARE my age unemployed, working crap jobs or have unrealistic goals (like "I want to be an actor... but have no training etc...)

4. Am I slowly losing my "old friends"?

5. Am I having a difficult time making ends meet?

6. Am I REALLY happy?

7. Are my friends REALLY my friends (can I have a conversation about anything other than when the next time Tiesto comes to town)?

8. Am I periodically DEPRESSED? The reason you're depressed is because that's what ecstacy withdrawl does to you... especially 3-4 days after your last dose...

9. Do I need drugs to have fun? (or can I party "sober"). If you can't party sober, then it isn't "actually" fun...


I could go on but I'm sure by now you get my point. If you are pushing 30 or already well into your thirties, this is your WAKE UP CALL.

Get with it. Break the cycle. Get some new friends and find some REAL happiness.

Cheers and good luck.

Last edited by nomore on Mar-17-2008 at 19:25

crazytown.

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Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).

? huh ?

Alas, the only thing more annoying than someone telling you to quit that has never done it, is someone who has done it and then quit.

You are right Wurm. You really are. And that's going to be the view from the majority of people on these forums. I accept that.

And let's be clear that I don't think I'm "better" than anyone (which is probably what some might think).

But many people will actually agree deep down.

I know a few that I used to party with, some of them prominent and well known tranceaddict members that will look at themselves in the mirror and see that they've got more lines on their face, a few less hairs on their head than they used to have and say..... hmmmm....

I look at the recent photos from recent events and it's all the same people.... Same 'ol same 'ol.

It's difficlult to see really. Some really great people!!! that will wake up some day (some of them 32 or 33 right now...) and realize that they're pushing 40 and haven't really grown..

I don't regret anything I've done. I have great, even amazing memories but I got out when the time was right and feel fortunate to have gotten out at the right time.

I'm just trying to help those at that RIPE old age... see that maybe it's time for them as well.

This isn't directed to "the youngsters". Go ahead, have fun but always keep your eye on the future.

I think many people have to ask themselves what their exit plan is.

Do they want to be the oldest person in the room?

Can they tail off gradually? It can be done.

Most need to break from things because it becomes a larger part of their lives than it should be.

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Originally posted by nomore ...

Anytime one aspect of life becomes a detriment to other areas of life - something is amiss.

The problem comes about when one doesn't have the acuity to determine the impact of actions on their life; an inability to detect unbalance.

I think you post some interesting concepts that everybody (old and young alike) should evaluate. A gentle reminder is always valuable. Self-reflection and evaluation is critical.

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Dark Dirty Tech Tribal. | Hands in air (trance) and feet on the floor (house).

Agreed and well put rabbitjoker. I'm just offering a forum for self-reflection. Thanks for your civility. I thought I might be TROUNCED on this issue! lol

I just don't want to come off as preachy or judgemental. I hope I haven't....

I just know that there are alot of people out there that just keep putting off "the last party"... tick tick tick. Time keeps a tick'in.

with all due respect, i think you mean "drug abusers" and not partiers.

I know lots of people that have been going out to raves and now clubs for 15, 20+ years(myself included), who have careers, homes, families etc and don't let clubbing interfer with their lives or bring them down. Most have moved on from drug use, but still enjoy going out on a regular basis.

obviously you were an irresponsible drug user and it caused severe problems in your life. I'm glad to hear you've got over it, but that doesn't mean that everyone that "parties" is in the same boat you were.

Does that mean my dad should think twice about a Led Zeppelin reunion.

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Originally posted by activate with all due respect, i think you mean "drug abusers" and not partiers. I know lots of people that have been going out to raves and now clubs for 15, 20+ years(myself included), who have careers, homes, families etc and don't let clubbing interfer with their lives or bring them down. Most have moved on from drug use, but still enjoy going out on a regular basis. obviously you were an irresponsible drug user and it caused severe problems in your life. I'm glad to hear you've got over it, but that doesn't mean that everyone that "parties" is in the same boat you were.

Hey activate. I do actually mean drug abusers, not "partiers" but lets face it, in the majority of cases, partying goes hand-in-hand with doing drugs in that scene... I don't think there are many sober partiers at CZ at 5:00 in the morning... c'mon now... I've been there...

I do agree with you that there ARE "some" people out there that still love to party and do it sober (although it's a MINORITY) and it hasn't affected their lives in a negative way. Coudos to them. Much respect.

I was an "irresponsible drug user" (is there such a thing as a "responsible" drug user?) and it had the potential to cause some problems in my life. I saw the beginning signs of it. Fortunately, I quit on my 30th birthday. I tried partying sober but it just wasn't nearly as fun.

My message isn't to minority of sober partiers (what is it like 5-10% of the population?).

I WILL say though, that if you've got kids, maybe that's a sign to stay home, sober or not.

Last edited by nomore on Mar-17-2008 at 20:20

quote:

Originally posted by nomore I was an "irresponsible drug user" (is there such a thing as a "responsible" drug user?) and it had the potential to cause some problems in my life. I saw the beginning signs of it. Fortunately, I quit on my 30th birthday. I tried partying sober but it just wasn't nearly as fun.

IMO a responsibly drug user would be one that knows there limits and doesn't put drugs before life, family, friends... someone that doesn't use them on a regular basis.

if you couldn't have fun sober, then you clearly weren't into the scene for the music and dancing in the first place.. you were there to get high.


and I'm well aware that this scene pretty much revolves around drugs, whether they be legal or illegal. I've been going out for almost 15 years, and I'm defintely not ignorant to what goes on, but most people do know when to draw the line and don't let drugs control their lives.