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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California
The art of writing a resume

I'm sure everyone here has written a resume at one point of his life..
Hehe, I've been writing mine for the past 3 days and it still needs work !

Who could've thought that giving compliments to yourself on paper could be so damn difficult? Excellent this, Outstanding that, Great here, Very good there...

Why do I have to write in Personal Skills section that I'm a "team player", "very reliable" or "quick leaner" or other crap like that, which appears on every single Resume, and why can't I just write "i'm a cool guy who enjoy trance" ?

damn.. this resume shit is absolut crap! Most people(including myself) bullshit like 50% of the information on their resumes!

PS. Latest draft(actually probably the final copy) of my resume is available here in Word format.
So if you need a lesson in bullshiting check it out. I welcome any critisism and flaming. Warning: Most of it won't make sense if you are not a Computer Science person.


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Last edited by Durafei on Jan-16-2003 at 04:24

Old Post Jan-16-2003 04:10  Canada
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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe
Re: The art of writing a resume

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Originally posted by Durafei
Why do I have to write in Personal Skills section that I'm a "team player", "very reliable" or "quick leaner" or other crap like that, which appears on every single Resume, and why can't I just write "i'm a cool guy who enjoy trance" ?

damn.. this resume shit is absolut crap! Most people(including myself) bullshit like 50% of the information on their resumes!


Might want to do a spell check, I see some words like "utilitity", "consistsed", and "relatinal." Normally I wouldn't pick on that, but since this is a resume, I figured it might help you out.

Since everybody else bullshits, maybe you want to note somewhere in there that you're actually telling the truth?

Old Post Jan-16-2003 04:29  Canada
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Dr. Z
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto/Waterloo, Canada

Wow, nice history in Mathematics.
Congrats.


The resume seems fine, except for your name. The letter (I) and (L) in your name look the same. There might be some confusion with that. Maybe if you change the font?

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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Mississauga

Hey Durafei I never knew your into software development...
I just graduated and I wanted to know how did you find your first job as software developer...
These days all they want is like 3 + years or experience, know how I can get a break???


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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Calgary

I like how you keep your student id secret, but release the other stuff such as name, address and phone# to the internet.

Just got a laugh out of that.
Oh and your resume is far to long, try to get as brief and to the point without putting it in pointform.


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Durafei
the crazy russian



Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California
Re: Re: The art of writing a resume

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
Might want to do a spell check, I see some words like "utilitity", "consistsed", and "relatinal." Normally I wouldn't pick on that, but since this is a resume, I figured it might help you out.


Hehee.. Thanks for noticing that! Appreciate it! I totally forgot to run a spell checker on that thing. This resume will be submitted to 9 companies tomorrow. We'll see what's gonna happen, but my expectations are not very high at the moment, since students with even more and better experience are having tough time getting jobs these days.

quote:
Hey Durafei I never knew your into software development...
I just graduated and I wanted to know how did you find your first job as software developer...
These days all they want is like 3 + years or experience, know how I can get a break???

Well, I'm in a co-op program at Waterloo, so it's a bit easier for us here, since many companies come and hire students from here.
As far as getting a first job with no experience - it's tough, especially now. You really have to work on your resume, and possibly "invent" some experience. Some people don't like doing that kind of stuff(though they think that exagerrating beyond belief is ok), but personally I don't think there is anything wrong with it, as long as you know that you are capable of the job. For instance say you did a project at home, or at school.. Well, in your resume you can say that you did this thing for some company, or something along those lines.

Now as far as the length of a resume goes, 2 pages is the perfect size. 1 page is too little(can't really explain what you did, and employers like explanations these days), while 3 pages is too much(employer might just stop reading past the 2nd page, and possibly miss something of importance on the 3rd page)


Heheh.. totally forgot to censor my address.. doesn't really matter though, that's not my permanent location, just a place I live while studying at Waterloo..

Thank for your comments guys, appreciate it !


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Dr. Z
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto/Waterloo, Canada

I don't see any "art".

Maybe if you use pink pages and print floating musical notes, and floating algorithms on the side of your page you'll have some art.

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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Z
I don't see any "art".

Maybe if you use pink pages and print floating musical notes, and floating algorithms on the side of your page you'll have some art.


Actually, despite the silliness, he does have a point... obviously a sci/eng resume isn't supposed to look artsy but sometimes it doesn't hurt to have a little graphic or something else eye-catching.

Not that I would know since I suck at the whole resume thing, but I've seen it work for other people.

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Durafei
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: San Francisco, California

quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Z
I don't see any "art".

Maybe if you use pink pages and print floating musical notes, and floating algorithms on the side of your page you'll have some art.


Well, I thought art was great as well.. but that was at the time when the industry was booming and you could have 5-6 interviews without any experience by dropping just 24 resumes. Those were the days !

Now art in your resume doesn't get you anywhere ! Employers want fancy words such as EJB, or .Net on your resume !


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DigiNut
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Self-proclaimed Centre of the Universe

quote:
Originally posted by Durafei
Employers want fancy words such as EJB, or .Net on your resume !


.Net

This goes back to your comment about business managers being dumb shits. It's sad that a company can release such a crappy product and have everyone jumping on it (just look at Java, my god), but I guess this will always be the case as long as the simple-minded technologically illiterate are in charge.

When they get a resume with VHDL, Spice, Matlab and HCxx, they scratch their heads and throw it away. Hand them a paper full of useless community-college skills that anyone can learn very poorly (like "Visual BASIC programming" or "Windows NT administration"), they start salivating.

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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: HAMILTON
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here is what always worked for me. I know I might be in a different feild than you but that doesn't matter when it comes to high profile jobs(careers). The Point is when you are interested in a place do research on them. not what they do or what they treat their employees like......that's simple and any moron can do that. BE A FREAK. Find out info about them. Ask their competition about them. Don't drop off the resume any say to reciptionist"aaaaa can u give this to the manager" Phone them posing as a customer stating you have a problem with one of their employees......state to the secretary that you must speak with the Human Resources department head. Ask for the name. Note it. them either hang up or talk to them. either way is ok. Call the secretary back stating that they were busy and ask if that is you caould have their extension # and that you will try later. Act like you r somkebody not a quarky student. Talk like a pro. Now walk in to the place. Make up lies, say you are from a local union, university teacher aid, but don't I dentify yourself as a student!!!!! Make up any lie like on TV. Ask PROPERLY for the H.R. Manager. HAND THE RESUME INTO THEIR HAND. you know that new movie "catch me if you can" I haven't seen it but I get the just of it from the commercials. You can get into anywhere if you articulate and show that you are a pro. So that means a Suit kids, with tie!!! I have gotten into hundreds of places that are locked up and you can't even get into without prox cards, or past the secretary on the first floor with connections. Look I have problems picking up checks @ bars but when I go for a job....I get it!

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Dr. Z
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto/Waterloo, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut
... Matlab ...


hehe, Matlab

We just began using Matlab to solve some physics problems. It not that bad...

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