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Dmatrox
something goes here?

Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

Internet over power lines

Crazy shit right there.

If internet over power lines became a standard instead of ethernet, what would this bring?

pros:
-everyone could have internet

cons:
-major security issues

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/11/2...wer_lines031121

http://www.wired.com/news/technolog...2,57605,00.html

Discuss

Mar-30-2004 00:09 Canada

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-=M=-
Feelin' Bricky?

Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne, Aus

man if you guys were smart you'd have done what melbourne has almost finished - create a citywide wireless internet service

Mar-30-2004 00:14 Australia

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whiskers
old skool

Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

"maam, no, even though the internet comes via the powerlines, do NOT attempt to plug the cable into the power outlet..."

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Mar-30-2004 00:16 Ukraine

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djSlain
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Registered: May 2001
Location: San Diego CA

yep, Broadband Over Powerlines (BOP) is what they call it. I heard abuot it last nite and supposedly it will hinder the emergency broadcast system. And usual, issues of privacy

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Mar-30-2004 00:18

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Ocean-Glow
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Australia/Sydney

Highly unlikely. Net would be pretty much free for everyone driving multimillion dollar companies down the drain, so they will do everething posible to prevent this

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Tranc3
tranceaddict in training

Registered: May 2002
Location: Santa Cruz, CA, US

What about the magnetic field generated by the electric field? Wouldn't that scramble (a.k.a. corrupt) data packets?

Mar-30-2004 00:41

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Dmatrox
something goes here?

Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

quote:
Originally posted by Tranc3
What about the magnetic field generated by the electric field? Wouldn't that scramble (a.k.a. corrupt) data packets?

good question anyone know?

quote:
man if you guys were smart you'd have done what melbourne has almost finished - create a citywide wireless internet service

that fits with:
quote:
major security issues

Mar-30-2004 00:48 Canada

smokeape
Lowland Trance Addict

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Heart of Dixie

quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
"maam, no, even though the internet comes via the powerlines, do NOT attempt to plug the cable into the power outlet..."

BWAHAHHAAAA! That made my day! Thanks.

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Mar-30-2004 01:29

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Feelin' Bricky?

Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne, Aus

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
good question anyone know?

that fits with:

btw i wasnt kidding - one of my mates has been working for a company to make this melbournewide wireless internet for quite some time now... perhaps about 10 months or so? it should be finished soon...

Mar-30-2004 01:32 Australia

Dmatrox
something goes here?

Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Calgary

quote:
Originally posted by -=M=-
btw i wasnt kidding - one of my mates has been working for a company to make this melbournewide wireless internet for quite some time now... perhaps about 10 months or so? it should be finished soon...

i think wireless is a good idea, but people who build them, and especially people who use them should use caution. have you ever heard of wardriving?

Mar-30-2004 01:36 Canada

whiskers
old skool

Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams

quote:
Originally posted by Dmatrox
have you ever heard of wardriving?

wardriving is defined as nothing more than just driving around and sniffing / plotting WAPs

besides, almost any WEP can be cracked... i have airsnort for linux and it should crack almost any WEP key, given enough packets... of course you need a shitload of packets - at least 5 million. that's about 2 hours of data gathering on a large, active network. on small networks it takes weeks.

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Mar-30-2004 01:39 Ukraine

[ groovypants ]
force of groovity

Registered: Sep 2002
Location: house of flying vinyls

They call it "War-chalking" in the land down under [and also the UK?]. Also, 10 months is not a long time - the U.S. and many EU other countries have been playing with Wireless for YEARS.
We Aussies are 2 generations behind in terms of boardband Internet services.

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Mar-30-2004 01:42 Australia