Two weeks ago I watched a movie called Food inc and it got me obsessed over this GMO stuff. If you don't know wtf I'm talking about go watch Food inc and the world according to Monsanto. For anyone who does know what I'm talking about, what do you think? Most of Europe has forced the food companies to label them or ban them altogether. That leaves Canadians and Americans to be the guinea pigs for this stuff. For some reason we keep loosing everytime we try and pass the law which would force the companies to label GMO's.

holy shit what is up with all of these food threads these days

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Originally posted by bas we're just rolling in that sweet sweet Beatport chedda SON. I PUT DIAMONDS IN MY SALT SHAKER SO I CAN HAVE CRUSHED DIAMONDS ON MY FOOD...it makes my dookie twinkle!!!

You've eaten GM tomatoes since the fucking 80s and nothing has gone wrong. Stop with the doomsday bullshit already.

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for the record hormones, pesticides, antibiotics != genetically modified food

there's nothing wrong with gmo in fact the world needs gmo staple foods to approach anything resembling sustainability. crop failures, spoilage and low yields mean famine and starvation in many parts of the world. altering a gene that increases starch content, resists beetles or allows a plant to survive heat and drought better addresses those problems.

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Originally posted by ******** fact is the government supports the stuff cause it means 'healthier foods' they pump foods full of artificial junk to make it "healthy" enough to eat.. so why not save time and grow the healthy into it.. increase yields, bring down prices, and make the food more accessable.

What? They don't pump anything into it. They do exactly what you just suggested hence the words "genetically modified".
They can also selectively breed to eliminate unfavourable plants.

GM foods are far less harmful than foods with a tonne of pesticides on them.

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Originally posted by Fledz You've eaten GM tomatoes since the fucking 80s and nothing has gone wrong. Stop with the doomsday bullshit already.

No sorry, they came on the market in 1994 and dissapeared around 1998 due to commercial failure. You have lost all your credibility, GTFO.

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Originally posted by ******** Pumping stuff into it.. oh they do... 1st in the growth stage - different chemicals like nitrogen and other sprays and mists.. pesticides, and other pharmaceuticals (mostly derived from oil) which makes the soil "dead" and it is all picked up by the plants. 2nd in the processing stage groups like the FDA have set minimum nutrient levels so things like flour and pasta have artificial vitamins added to them (these artificial vitamins arn't identical to "naturally occuring vitamins" but are synthetic equivolents.. there have been some arguments these synthetic vitamins can have adervse health effects. 3rd even afterwords when lots of foods are packaged, additives including health hazards and toxins like EDTA are pumped into the foods, these are often damaging to homeostaic operations of the body and in some cases can be carcinogens or damaging to organs (but in the low daily dosages arn't deemed hazards by the FDA - but with long term exposure such as that to bad tap water the health effects will show themselves. This isn't as simple as flouride (a toxic substance) in the water supply slowly killing tap water drinkers.. or large amounts of estrogen in the water supply changing hormone balances (of people such as males) causing hormonal imbalances, but much more overt and generalized - does it do the job... will they notice the effects if it is yes and no.. then it might be used.. but whatis the real effect? DO note without the first stage 80+% of agriculatural fields would be unable to produce foodstuffs.. due to destruction of the natural soil characteristics which allow plant growth. THis is one of the scary parts of oil dependency.. without oil we loose our food supply..

you're talking about fertilizers, pesticides, antibiotics, and then additives in processed foods. 404 gmo not found.

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Originally posted by R!CH for the record hormones, pesticides, antibiotics != genetically modified food

Where did you find this information? I'm pretty sure genetically modified means changing genes of a plant and thats about it. Unless adding pesticides and antibiotics changes genes?

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht No sorry, they came on the market in 1994 and dissapeared around 1998 due to commercial failure. You have lost all your credibility, GTFO.

Eh close enough, trials of them were in the late 80s iirc.
Like you said they weren't pulled due to being unsafe, they were pulled due to commerical failure (which could be a number of things). They were never shown to be detrimental to health and we continue to still have many GM foods available on the market. I agree there needs to be more studies on it though.

I'm all for labelling food as I believe we need all the information, but the reaction to GM foods is the same as to pharmaceutical products when they first became wide spread. GM food has a tonne of potential in medicine as well.

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Originally posted by Dj Nacht Where did you find this information? I'm pretty sure genetically modified means changing genes of a plant and thats about it. Unless adding pesticides and antibiotics changes genes?

no they don't change genes, that was my point. people confuse gmo with the shit that's really bad for you, which is all the other stuff (pesticides, antibiotics, etc). gmo is flicking certain genes on or off to allow the same acre of land to produce 25% more calories or use 15% less water. organic foods do taste better, but that's a luxury a lot of hungry and malnourished people don't have.

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Life should not be patented. That's my opinion. Monsanto should not be allowed to sue farmers who through no fault of their own, inadvertently get GMO seeds blown by the wind into their fields.

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