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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Faith in Humanity: How much do you trust others?

My girlfriend and I were talking about it Saturday and it surprised me how different our views were on this.

Although I love my current job (and she hates hers), we both work in a place full of obnoxious back-stabbing grannies. Some of them are so sly and manipulative that you actually feel sorry for their pitiful span of existence. And, as we were talking about it, tears welled in my girlfriend's eye, and she told me about an advice a very nice workmate one gave her:

“Be careful, darling, you can't trust anyone like you trust me. One day you will say something to a friend and, when you least expect, this so-called friend will stab you in the back in a heart beat, simply because you confided in them. ”

This is a workmate we both like very much, and she does look like a nice person who eventually turned sour because of the environment she's in. And we then started debating: how much can you trust others?

I tend to trust others at first, being also loyal to them (not unlike the famous Tit For Tat program in Game Theory), except when I do have plenty of reasons not to do so (i.e. if the person looks dodgy, I'm naturally inclined not to trust them). Also, I'd rather pay for my mistakes than lie.

My girlfriend, on the other hand, told me that she trusted no one but me. That doesn't mean she's a liar (she's shown me, throughout the years, that I can really trust her), but she hardly ever talks about her life to anyone.

How about you? Do you trust others?

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Akridrot
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Re: Faith in Humanity: How much do you trust others?

quote:
Originally posted by Lira
My girlfriend and I were talking about it Saturday and it surprised me how different our views were on this.

Although I love my current job (and she hates hers), we both work in a place full of obnoxious back-stabbing grannies. Some of them are so sly and manipulative that you actually feel sorry for their pitiful span of existence. And, as we were talking about it, tears welled in my girlfriend's eye, and she told me about an advice a very nice workmate one gave her:
“Be careful, darling, you can't trust anyone like you trust me. One day you will say something to a friend and, when you least expect, this so-called friend will stab you in the back in a heart beat, simply because you confided in them. ”

This is a workmate we both like very much, and she does look like a nice person who eventually turned sour because of the environment she's in. And we then started debating: how much can you trust others?

I tend to trust others at first, being also loyal to them (not unlike the famous Tit For Tat program in Game Theory), except when I do have plenty of reasons not to do so (i.e. if the person looks dodgy, I'm naturally inclined not to trust them). Also, I'd rather pay for my mistakes than lie.

My girlfriend, on the other hand, told me that she trusted no one but me. That doesn't mean she's a liar (she's shown me, throughout the years, that I can really trust her), but she hardly ever talks about her life to anyone.

How about you? Do you trust others?


NO. People have repeatedly proved that they can't be trusted. People are lazy, people lie, people cheat, and people want to hurt you. I keep this shit from affecting me but not trusting anyone. I also keep my mouth shut about personal shit.


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Boomer187
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people suck ass.

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Silky Johnson
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I always give people the benefit of the doubt. This doesn't mean I naively or blindly trust people...just that I start off with the general attitude that people are more good than bad, so all they have to do is prove me wrong.

For me, it's a lot easier to spot the shitheads this way. Plus, going around with the idea that everyone sucks/is bad/can't be trusted is no way to live.

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JD8180
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quote:
Originally posted by jëññýþîé
Plus, going around with the idea that everyone sucks/is bad/can't be trusted is no way to live.


most def!

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quote:
Originally posted by jëññýþîé
I always give people the benefit of the doubt. This doesn't mean I naively or blindly trust people...just that I start off with the general attitude that people are more good than bad, so all they have to do is prove me wrong.

For me, it's a lot easier to spot the shitheads this way. Plus, going around with the idea that everyone sucks/is bad/can't be trusted is no way to live.


same here too.

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i'm one of the few people who think that whatever you give to people is what you will get in return.

if you lie and deceive you will be reciprocated.

if you are honest and truthful you will be rewarded.


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quote:
Originally posted by jëññýþîé
I always give people the benefit of the doubt. This doesn't mean I naively or blindly trust people...just that I start off with the general attitude that people are more good than bad, so all they have to do is prove me wrong.

For me, it's a lot easier to spot the shitheads this way. Plus, going around with the idea that everyone sucks/is bad/can't be trusted is no way to live.


Why can't it be the other way? I don't go around telling people "I don't trust you" but I pretty much expect to be let down by people. When someone consistently proves to me that they can be trusted with increasingly important things, then I will trust them more and more.

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i'm one of the few people who think that whatever you give to people is what you will get in return.

if you lie and deceive you will be reciprocated.

if you are honest and truthful you will be rewarded.


I don't believe this at all. I've been screwed too many times for being honest.


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Lira
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quote:
Originally posted by jëññý��
I always give people the benefit of the doubt. This doesn't mean I naively or blindly trust people...just that I start off with the general attitude that people are more good than bad, so all they have to do is prove me wrong.

For me, it's a lot easier to spot the shitheads this way. Plus, going around with the idea that everyone sucks/is bad/can't be trusted is no way to live.

Exactly!

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Silky Johnson
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quote:
Originally posted by Akridrot
Why can't it be the other way? I don't go around telling people "I don't trust you" but I pretty much expect to be let down by people. When someone consistently proves to me that they can be trusted with increasingly important things, then I will trust them more and more.




Because I think that's arrogant. Who the fuck am I to ask that people continually "prove themselves" to me?

Again it's just personal preference. I find it's a lot simpler and easier just to give everyone that clean slate...for me it's more truthful and/or honest.

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Zild
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I think trust has to be earned. When you've seen a given result occur 9 out of 10 times to approach the next event thinking the odds are 50/50 is foolish at best. Call that arrogance if you will.


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Faith is for the weak. I trust no one but my immediate family members. Everyone has an agenda and everyone has a price in which they will shit all over you.

As I often like to point out - It's a dog eat dog world; and I will eat your fucking dog.

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