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whiskers
old skool



Registered: Sep 2001
Location: in your dreams
advice on buying a digicam

i wanna get myself a digicam, something cheap, just for fun, under $200. i've looked at a few, and here's what i focused on:



Kodak EasyShare CX 4230, 2.0 megapixels, 16Mb built-in memory, 2x digital / 3x optical zoom, $200



Creative PC-Cam 600, 1.3 megapixels, 16Mb built-in memory, no zoom, doubles as a webcam, $115-$130

now, the Consumer Report says similar kodak easyshare cams are really good. the Creative cam gets good reviews from Cnet. also, i have a friend who has it and he says it's really easy to use and produces good quality images. he's yet to send them to me, but i was just thinking...

got any advice? maybe some other camera that you know is excellent/very good? i don't wanna buy a lemon.


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k.k.d.
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Montreal

Now, I would never buy a camera made by a manufacturer that also makes sound cards, speakers, and other computer paraphernalia...

As for Kodak... well, their prime in camera quality was back in the good old days (1997-1998) when they were really the best there was on the market.. Since the mentioned camera isn't quite matching my own interests in digital photography, I cannot comment it, but here's a random review that might help you with your decision:

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Kodak continues their popular EasyShare digital camera system with the 2-megapixel CX4230, an excellent choice for anyone that wants to capture the best pictures with a minimum of controls. This camera has a quality glass zoom lens, takes excellent pictures and is extremely easy to use, especially if you have the optional Easy Share dock. Even without the docking cradle the camera connects to the computer's USB port and the Kodak Picture Software makes easy work of transferring your files.

This is strictly an automatic point-n-shoot, still image camera, it has no other capture modes. The lens is a good 3x optical zoom with a maximum aperture of F2.8 that captures sharp and colorful pictures. As with most all consumer digital cameras there is a "shutter lag" - this is the time from pressing the shutter to actual capture. Only film cameras are close to instantaneous, digicams have a delay in which the camera sets the autofocus, exposure value and white balance before capturing the shot. The CX4230 is about average with a nominal one second shutter lag.

Indoor flash pictures look good, they're not over or under-exposed and people pictures have a nice saturated look to them that I'm sure will please the majority of the users. The camera does a good job of throttling the flash down for close-up pictures taken in Macro focus mode, even those shot a half a foot or so from the lens were not over- exposed. In fact all the pictures we took had good saturation and white balance. Outdoor pictures show lots of sky detail even when the foreground takes up more of the frame. It seems as if Kodak is emulating their Kodacolor film with this camera and they've done quite well.

Battery life is good if the color LCD is used sparingly. The camera is powered by just two AA type batteries or a single CR3V type lithium cell. I recommend using the highest capacity NiMH rechargeable batteries that you can find (1700mAH or better.) If you purchase the optional EasyShare docking cradle, it comes with a NiMH battery pack and the cradle can charge it or any rechargeable NiMH batteries you may have. The use of alkaline batteries is NOT recommended by Kodak (or me!)

This is a great camera if you're just starting out in digital or you've been at it for a while. The two-megapixel "BEST" images will yield photo-quality prints on today's photo inkjet printers right up to 5 x 7 inch size. You can select the smaller "BETTER" or "GOOD" image sizes if you don't need to print the pictures larger than 4x6" Everything you need is in the box including software to view, edit and manage your digital images. Unlike other "entry level" digicams, the CX4230 Zoom has a Audio Video Out feature so you can also enjoy your pictures and movies on the television screen too. This $249 camera won't break the bank or your brain -- just put the batteries in it, turn it on and start enjoying digital photography today!


Full review can be found here

Alternativelly, I can recommend to you (in the smae price range) the FinePix 2650 or (if you are willing to spend a bit more) the Cannon Ixus 330 ELPH... Although I don't own neither of them, I did use them a bit and have friends with them, and they are good entry-to-mid-level point-and-shoot cameras...

Anyway


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PhaseFour
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Sacramento and/or UC Davis, California

for a simple p&s, why not go for the sony U-series? sorry no pics (lol), but www.sonystyle.com check that out

perosnally, im looking between the new canon s45 and g3. those are a little bit higher range, but awesome if u have the $$$ to blow on them hehe

hope that helps

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displaced
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Registered: Dec 2001
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i got me a canon s200 digital elph for christmas. its tiny and the photo quality is decent. but i was kinda disapppointed by the limited movie function... then again, its a digicam, not a videocam.


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PhaseFour
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rofl i love ur location tag, displaced

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DjObscene
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland, US

well i would never buy that wasn't decent quality so i would recommend saving up and getting something a little better...fujifilm finepix f401, 2 mexapixel which acts like 4 megapixel is what i got, only $300. Wasn't a lot of money but picture quality is awesome

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cheesenip
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: NorCal / SoCal

Stick with Canon, Fujifilm, and other companies that are known for cameras. I myself have a Canon Powershot S200. Very high quality construction and compact. Fits inside my jeans pockets easily.


Keep in mind that 2.0 megapixels is sufficient for just taking pictures and even printing them at the 4x6 picture scale. Anymore megapixels and you are using a lot more money especially if you do not even print your pictures out on a photo printer or photo store.

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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Berkeley,CA

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Originally posted by cheesenip
Stick with Canon, Fujifilm, and other companies that are known for cameras. I myself have a Canon Powershot S200. Very high quality construction and compact. Fits inside my jeans pockets easily.


Keep in mind that 2.0 megapixels is sufficient for just taking pictures and even printing them at the 4x6 picture scale. Anymore megapixels and you are using a lot more money especially if you do not even print your pictures out on a photo printer or photo store.


soooooooo very very true
when i was buying mine it hought i needed more megapixels
but u sooooo dont

canon powershot s330 here
very very quality camera


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drizzt81
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Registered: Nov 2001
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I would certainly NOT get the CL one.

try this link


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undertensecond
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Registered: Nov 2002
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1) More pixels
2) Removable Memory


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whiskers
old skool



Registered: Sep 2001
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thanks, everyone, for your input.

thanks to you, i now think i will get canon s200 :P






p.s. whoa, it is ISO 400! i love!


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whiskers
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damn it, i changed my mind again, i think i'll get an Elph S330



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