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Aldrian
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how do you actually burn text onto cdrs?

you know how some cds when you put it on your car cd player and it says the name of the track or artist or whatever. well i want to burn that onto my cds when i make music. so when you open it with realplayer or winamp or whatever music software you use, you get to see your name and whatever you type onto it. how do i do that? is there a progrm out there?

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KoreanDJ
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You need a special kind of stereo deck that will display the texts.

Steve

PS I could be wrong

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Aldrian
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i know

yeah i konw that. that was not my question. when im burning cds what is a way i can make it appear on the text on cd players? like when im using acid pro 4.0 and making tunes and titling it. i titled all of them but still none of the text is showing up on the players or pc players.

Old Post Jan-16-2003 07:18  United States
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KoreanDJ
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oooops, yea i think it's one of those programs. My friend does it all the time but I remember him saying that it will take a long time to do or something.

Steve

PS I could be WRONG

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cycloptor
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you need a player that supports cd text. kinda hard to find.


if youre talking about actually etching designs onto the cd itself....you need a yamaha cdr drive that supports that feature. they only have one drive that does it.


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Rostros
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What is CD Text
Essentially CD Text is a extension of the existing audio CD standard ("Red Book") that adds the ability to store text and graphical information like album titles, artist names, and song titles on a music CD. This information is stored in such a way that it doesn't interfere with the normal operation of any CD players or CDROM drives. There is quite a bit of confusion about the standard because there are two different parts of the CD where the data can be stored.

The first place the information can be recorded is in the R-W sub codes in the lead in area of the CD giving a data capacity of about 2,500 characters with Kanji, and about 5,000 characters with alphabet/numbers. This information is stored as a single block of data and is the format used in virtually all of the CD Text CDs shipping today. The method for reading this data from a cdrom drive is covered under the Sony proposal to the MMC spec. The format of the data is partially covered in the MMC spec.

The second place the information can be recorded is in the R-W sub codes in the program area of the CD giving a data capacity of roughly 31MB. This information is stored in a format that follows the Interactive Text Transmission System (ITTS) which is the same data transmission standard used by such things as Digital Audio Broadcasting (DAB), and virtually the same as the data standard for the MiniDisc. Traditionally the R-W sub codes have been used for text and graphics in applications such as CD+G (CD w/graphics) or in the case of most audio CDs, not at all. The methods for reading this data from a cdrom drive is covered by the programming specs from the individual drive manufacturers. In the case of ATAPI drives, the SFF8020 spec covers the reading of the RW subcodes. There is a fairly short list of drives out there that actually support reading the RW subcodes from the program area. (if anyone happens to have a good list of these drives, please forward it to us for inclusion in the faq)

Available CDs
According to Sony, about 400 companies are now licensed to use CD Text which adds almost no cost to production of a disc.

As of late November, 1997, there were apparently upwards of 100 or more CD Text encoded CDs available from Sony. It also appears virtually every Sony title release since April '97 has been encoded with CD Text, they just haven't been advertising it.

Available Drives
Hewlett Packard 7500 / 8100 / 8200 / M820e / 9100 / 9200
Plextor 4220T (requires firmware 1.02 or higher)
Plextor 8220T
Ricoh 7040 (requires firmware 1.20 or higher)
Ricoh 7060 / 7080 / 8040 / 9060
Sony CRX100E / CRX110E / CRX120E / CRX140E / CRX140S
Teac CD-R56S / CD-R58S (requires firmware 1.0J or higher)

Available CD Players
SonicBlue Volt portable CD player
http://www.riohome.com/products/riovolt.htm

Available Software
Computall Services
CDDA32 since version 1.0 has support for using these drives to read the encoded CDs.

Golden Hawk Technology
CDRWIN since version 3.6A has support for using these drives to read the encoded CDs.

Fiero
Now supports CD-Text with their CD burning software. Free beta version available from their site.
http://www.feurio.de

Ahead Software
Now supports CD-Text with their Nero CD burning software. Free trial version available from their site.
http://www.ahead.de

CD Text Players
http://www.plextor.be/English/technical/download2.html
http://www.plextor.be/download/ftp1/cdtplayer.zip

Sony Europe CD Text authoring tool
http://www.sonydadc.com/file/cdtext.zip


Sites of interest
CD Recordable FAQ
http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/faq02.html

Available Specifications
Interactive text transmission system (ITTS)
IEC 61866 (1997-08)
Interactive text transmission system (ITTS) provides the mechanism for encoding sound associated data on prerecorded media and for the transport of such data across equipment interfaces. Defines the higher layers of ITTS, i.e. those system characteristics which are independent of the recording or interconnection medium.

MMC spec
ftp://ftp.t10.org/t10/drafts/mmc3/mmc3r01.pdf

SFF8020 spec
8020r26.ps

CD Standard images
http://www.sonydadc.com/customerarea.logo.go


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AussieTrance
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Location: Melbourne

Try using nero - there is an option somewhere before burning where you can enable cd text.


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BigDil
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Yeah, I use Nero as well, and it does the job.



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DjObscene
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Maryland, US

also on top of using whatever program you're using to write text to cd, your cd burner must have the ability to write the text...if not you can try all day and nothing will happen

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Aldrian
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cool

thanks a bunch DJ Razzor. man that was alot.

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