i have super high standards when it comes to producing...so naturally that's why i don't have anything released heheh...and plus i suck...but just curious...do you guys have a certain standard you think you need to meet before your shit is good enough?

i mean i'm listening to Spooky - Belong right now...and it's soooo genius. all the little subtleties...that's what makes it so great. and i ain't gonna embarass myself with putting out some crap song that can't hold it's own with tracks like that...

just curious who feels the same

Hehe� I don�t want to be too hard on myself I guess heh�that�s why I get to actually finish some productions for once in awhile.

If I listen to some work in progress and I say to myself: " hell, that�s pure crap", then ill probably wont continue working on it.

Im never 100% satisfied with my works, always feel like there are stuff that could have been done better� but that is also what helps you improve your skills, working on all the smell details trying to get your tune to be perfect.

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Originally posted by DJ-Kreing^^ Hehe� I don�t want to be too hard on myself I guess heh�that�s why I get to actually finish some productions for once in awhile. If I listen to some work in progress and I say to myself: " hell, that�s pure crap", then ill probably wont continue working on it. Im never 100% satisfied with my works, always feel like there are stuff that could have been done better� but that is also what helps you improve your skills, working on all the smell details trying to get your tune to be perfect.

Agree with this, i find that i have lots of saved tunes on my hard disk where its work i had a great idea for but then got so critical i gave up on them.

I would never say any producer here would be 100% satisfied with there work even when its at final release stage, you can always still pull things that you could have tweaked long after its reached final stage.

Nothing is ever 100% perfect....

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Definately feel the same way. I'm writing my first serious track at the moment and I've been re-working it for over a month and I'm still not anywhere near finishing. I dont want to produce something generic and waste the time mastering something thats flawed. Still not sure if this is the best way to work, but it feels right anyway.

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Originally posted by Subtle the better you get.. the more u produce.. the more u develop an ear of what sounds good and what dont..

agreed.

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well i understand what you all are saying of course. i dunno...maybe i should stop being so anal...but really...if this is something that i want to eventually do professionally...i just don't want my name attached to something that i'm not really proud of...

try to post samples on amateurs production forum instead of whole tunes and see what other TA's says

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our biggest critics are ourselves...

people might be like 'yeah this is really good' but 90% of us go, 'yeah, but it could be better...'

you're in a situation, again like the rest of us, where we are constantly progressing so, our idea of a good quality level changes everytime u try and produce.

As a sound engineer by trade, my standards for mix and mastering quality tend to stand in the way of the rest of my songwriting, which can be a blessing and a curse (the latter at the best of times).

But what I do mix is always done the best I can. I spend a lot of time on each sound so it's just right. I have no set routine to how I achieve each quality standard, I just hear a sound, know what it needs and find a way to do it...to the point where I'm looping a bar over and over again for hours on end while driving my housemate insane

The final mix is no different. I take no shortcuts. I've worked with my monitors for so long I know in my head where their strengths and weaknesses are. But sometimes even the most carefully placed studio setups can mask a flaw in a mix. When I think I've set it right on my monitors, I take it to other places: My computer speakers, my walkman, home theatre system and my car stereo are the most common places. I study how the mix works on each system, take notes and compare it back in the studio, and alter accordingly. Some songs have taken me weeks to get right, and some I'm still not satisfied with.

One day I'd love to take these skills and merge them with a real songwriter as a proper project, not just for work. That would be awesome.

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Originally posted by aquila As a sound engineer by trade, my standards for mix and mastering quality tend to stand in the way of the rest of my songwriting, which can be a blessing and a curse (the latter at the best of times). But what I do mix is always done the best I can. I spend a lot of time on each sound so it's just right. I have no set routine to how I achieve each quality standard, I just hear a sound, know what it needs and find a way to do it...to the point where I'm looping a bar over and over again for hours on end while driving my housemate insane The final mix is no different. I take no shortcuts. I've worked with my monitors for so long I know in my head where their strengths and weaknesses are. But sometimes even the most carefully placed studio setups can mask a flaw in a mix. When I think I've set it right on my monitors, I take it to other places: My computer speakers, my walkman, home theatre system and my car stereo are the most common places. I study how the mix works on each system, take notes and compare it back in the studio, and alter accordingly. Some songs have taken me weeks to get right, and some I'm still not satisfied with. One day I'd love to take these skills and merge them with a real songwriter as a proper project, not just for work. That would be awesome.

i would like to hear some of your work

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 our biggest critics are ourselves... people might be like 'yeah this is really good' but 90% of us go, 'yeah, but it could be better...' you're in a situation, again like the rest of us, where we are constantly progressing so, our idea of a good quality level changes everytime u try and produce.

So true. Good producers give the best feedback. The average listener will listen to what it is. A good producer will listen to what it can be.

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