Ok so I am having some issues with midi clips in ableton. I'm using 7.3 still at the moment.

By default midi clips in my ableton are all set to 120. I always thought up until now that the midi clips just went by the project tempo but i'm starting to think otherwise. It could be a 64 bit compatibility issue but I don't currently have another computer with everything loaded on to it to compare.

When I manually change all the clips back to 136 (the examples project tempo) not only does it sound different but as soon as I close and re-open the project it is re-set to 120.

My question is this. What is right and what is wrong?

Sick of dealing with this bullshit just want to be able to put my ideas down and be done with it

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Ok so I am having some issues with midi clips in ableton. I'm using 7.3 still at the moment. Sick of dealing with this bullshit just want to be able to put my ideas down and be done with it

well you should go buy the program then, 7.0.3 is not even close to the last version (you're 15 versions away and i know the last hacked version of ableton was 7.0.3 due to some kid on the ableton forums responding like a retard). the reality is your midi clips don't need to be set for tempo, they are all clocked to the master.

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Originally posted by mfitterer1 Ok so I am having some issues with midi clips in ableton. I'm using 7.3 still at the moment. By default midi clips in my ableton are all set to 120. I always thought up until now that the midi clips just went by the project tempo but i'm starting to think otherwise. It could be a 64 bit compatibility issue but I don't currently have another computer with everything loaded on to it to compare. When I manually change all the clips back to 136 (the examples project tempo) not only does it sound different but as soon as I close and re-open the project it is re-set to 120. My question is this. What is right and what is wrong? Sick of dealing with this bullshit just want to be able to put my ideas down and be done with it

Live 7 only goes up to 7.0.18.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 well you should go buy the program then, 7.0.3 is not even close to the last version (you're 15 versions away and i know the last hacked version of ableton was 7.0.3 due to some kid on the ableton forums responding like a retard). the reality is your midi clips don't need to be set for tempo, they are all clocked to the master.

Google says there are versions higher than 7.0.3.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

just buy it.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Google says there are versions higher than 7.0.3.

i think you're trying to agree with me? i said he's 15 versions behind (7.0.3 + .0.15 = 7.0.18)

Live 8 has been cracked.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

digi rain upon thee

I had a similar issue, and YES, I own a legit copy of Ableton.

My issue is that when you drop a new clip to an empty box on session view, it will automatically set the BPM of the clip to 120. It won't even try to guess the correct BPM like it normally should.

My fix to this, obviously is to warp the track manually.

Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, it's more of an inconvenience.

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Originally posted by DjWoody I had a similar issue, and YES, I own a legit copy of Ableton. My issue is that when you drop a new clip to an empty box on session view, it will automatically set the BPM of the clip to 120. It won't even try to guess the correct BPM like it normally should. My fix to this, obviously is to warp the track manually. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, it's more of an inconvenience.

but he's talking Midi, i think you're talking audio. for audio make sure to hit the save button in the clip after you warp it your warp settings will save in the asd file

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 well you should go buy the program then, 7.0.3 is not even close to the last version (you're 15 versions away and i know the last hacked version of ableton was 7.0.3 due to some kid on the ableton forums responding like a retard). the reality is your midi clips don't need to be set for tempo, they are all clocked to the master.

There are more recent live 7 cracks I'm pretty sure.

As far as the original question goes I'm a bit confused. Theres definately no bug. You need to look at where the grid lines are in the midi clip to work out where the notes are triggering. Live does something wierd with midi clips tempo. If you import them, they always display at the current project's tempo, even if they were recorded at a different tempo. Despite that, they still have the right relative timing, so its as if they've been "warped". Its confusing, but it means you never really need to adjust the timings, so I'm not sure why you're doing that. If it sounds in time when you import the clip, then just leave it alone.

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My version is legit it's not cracked. Excuse me for forgetting the 0 although I kinda feel like everyone knew what I was talking about regardless. On top of that the reason I haven't upgraded yet is because I got incredibly comfortable and don't want to re-learn version 8 or have issues because I've never had any up until now with 7.(0!).3. If it ain't broke why fix it?

The problem is noticed especially if you pick up an arrangement via cutting and pasting it. All of the midi clips go from 120 (default and what it usually is at) to 136 (tempo master clock speed). Also some of the swing parameters change on some clips but others don't. I'm really starting to think this is a XP 64 bit compatibility problem instead of an ableton problem. I have system crashes from time to time to I never used to have...