Im not quite sure how to describe exactly what this is, but I want to know how to make it. Basically, it's a big bass drop with a delayed crash or something on top and a reversed cymbal before... but the low end is what Im having a hard time getting to sound right...

I know this is probably pretty basic, but any help is appreciated!

SAMPLE 1

BONUS: Part of what is really interesting in this sample is that when it hits, everything else seems to briefly duck out a little. My guess is just volume automation, what is yours?

How about a similar effect thats a bit more organic (sounds more to me like a reverbed kick). I've been trying to do something like this, but I cant seem to get rid of the initial sound of the kick, and I haven't been able to get the sound nice and low (for that nice rumbling feeling)

SAMPLE 2

BONUS: This one seems to trail off for quite a while, which is cool, but how do you get it to still keep its quality and stick out in the mix so much? Am I just using a sucky reverb?

ps. I tried to search, but couldn't find anything... a link to a thread explaining this stuff would be nice if it exists

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The first one is a sine wave with a decending pitch modulation (LFO).
Try experimenting with a synth, it shouldn't be very hard to do. The ducking is probably just a side effect from the limiter/compressor on the master.
Second one is just reverb on a kick. The quality of the reverb is important and the reverb itself needs to be EQed.

I think I know what You mean

I use these Myself. Hmmmm, I'll use this as an example because it was the quickest example that came to mind....

Mike Koglin vs Jono Grant - Circuits

He uses it in this track, like a sub curve ranging from mid to low frequencies, usually very compressed and powerful sounding.

Sorry if this is not what You mean

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// when I listen to Trance, I don't just hear the Music, but see emotional visions aswell \\

If u want to do it the lazy way and is willing to spend some money. Then u could buy a sample cd from Vengeance called "Fx vol. 1". It contains a folder called Hits & Explode which is what ur looking for.

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Originally posted by vccv If u want to do it the lazy way and is willing to spend some money. Then u could buy a sample cd from Vengeance called "Fx vol. 1". It contains a folder called Hits & Explode which is what ur looking for.

or You could do that! - Actually I think using professionally made samples is probably much more accurate if You are stuck on various sounds / effects and percussion.

Vengeance make great samples!

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// when I listen to Trance, I don't just hear the Music, but see emotional visions aswell \\

The first one sounds like a sub kick with a long decay and reverb and a delay.

Wow, thanks for all the replies... so, it seems like Im on the right track... I'm just not awesome enough to get them to sound good, ha.

I really wanted to avoid using a sample of such a sound... it's much more interesting for me to make these sorts of things from scratch.

I'll have to give the sine wave a try... it seems like the pitch mudulation keeps it from sounding cheesy (just a simple tone).

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Originally posted by BenLime Wow, thanks for all the replies... so, it seems like Im on the right track... I'm just not awesome enough to get them to sound good, ha. I really wanted to avoid using a sample of such a sound... it's much more interesting for me to make these sorts of things from scratch. I'll have to give the sine wave a try... it seems like the pitch mudulation keeps it from sounding cheesy (just a simple tone).

Experimenting / practice and self-research is the only answer to progress and build knowledge by any means

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// when I listen to Trance, I don't just hear the Music, but see emotional visions aswell \\

The pitch modulation is important. It should drop 1-3 octaves over about 2-3 seconds. They used this effect in the lord of the rings movies. Like when the huge stone stairs crash in moria.

Here's a sample that I made. Feel free to use it.
(There's also some reverb in it.)
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.p...43ABBE05F6BC20D

Thanks again everyone for all your suggestions!

If you'd like to hear what I came up with, please feel free to check it out in action. Here's a link to the song preview thread:

Ben Lime & Xander James as LXJ - Dragon Sauce

(it's a working title, :P)

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