Hi,

this is more like just a rant, but might provocate some nice discussion we haven't had here for years now...

first of all let me explain the situation:
an artist chose me to make a remix for his track to see what I can come up with
then he decided he'd release the track, but keeps having some minor things to adjust
And well, it's kinda gettin' on my nerves, you know? I mean, yeah, the guy probably knows a lot more about the industry and is really willing to help, he's ok, down to earth and everything, can't say a bad word :/ but I feel that it's kinda becomming his mix now...not mine, with all the "minor adjustments" we have done so far...

how are you guys going about this?

I have also a few other release candidate remixes in the works now...and I totally fear it will be the same thing, sending the file back and forth for like a few weeks to get it spot on for the release...
but I wonder is this "spot on" markettable single an art effort? or is it just some "goods" that people from the label will sell?
After all, I have done so much work on the track and every little piece, note, the way it's arranged means something to me...

Do you accept those requests for changes on your singles/remixes? Or would you just tell the label/original artist to take it the way you want it or not to take it at all?

again, sorry...I'm just a little upset...

shit happens, I guess...

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NO dont listen to anyone
well you can listen and then find out whether you agree or not, if u feel that what he is saying is against your belief and vision dont do it. or you could ask him to explain why exactly he recomend changing the things he asked you to. if its something terrible anoying with your track that u somehow doesnt picked up yourself then hes a good help. i had trouble with my tracks before and not being able to find out what was wrong before i sent it to a friend and asked him. helped me alot. but just be true to yourself, if you do not agree on the change and feel the track is getting worse then just tell him that.

well, he's not a pain in the ass, he's quite helpful

the problem is my outro, I wanted it to be "off the standard"

so the outro does have a melody very simple one so it wouldn't clash when DJ tries to mix the track

but he wants me to remove it and make a bog standard outro :/

I do understand his reasons, it's just that I didn't think of my remix as a 100% dj friendly one, more a chillout version with a beat, something you'd listen to at home without having to listen 96 bars of just beats and something very simple happening :/

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remove it

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Originally posted by palm remove it

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the thread?

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the lead in your outro.

no mather how original we think trance/house is its no doubt the genre with the most strict rules of structure. just beacuse it has to be dj friendly makes it all VERY strict, but by following these simple rules were allowing good dj sets to be made by average djs (just see how many "good" djs TA have compared to producers). If u dont want to go the DJ-friendly route you should change your structure entirely and go for a pop-route (not building and building to a tention but instead having more prominent parts switching and changing). I dont mean the music itself but the structure, a non progressive structure. ive tried this with my latest tracks and shockingly they are much more interesting but not at all dj friendly. most of my music isnt aimed at djs anyway.

the best example i can think of when it comes to non-dj friendly pure techno is the album Technasia - Popsoda. Theres no intros or outros in it, its just straight into the theme at once. Also theres no peaks, no breaks and stuff like that, its only changing themes. great music.

No one cares about the outro, they just want to hear the next song. Make it DJ friendly for him, though I like harmonic mixing so melodies is no problem as you use it to your advantage when mixing.

If he wanted to change the intro / main part thats a diff story.

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make 2 diff mixes for him if you can't part with your own arrangement. I'm sure the label wouldn't have a problem putting out both versions digitally.

i also hate doing remixes or sending productions and getting an email back asking for some kind of changes. I especially hate when you do the changes and a week later they say they are just guna keep the one you had originally sent in. For the most part though I am open to try but if i feel like the way I had it before was better i will most def voice my opinion

Its all just a part of the game.

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Originally posted by BOOsTER I have done so much work on the track and every little piece, note, the way it's arranged means something to me...

I would never let anyone touch my tracks like this.

But there is also the possibility that the outro is way off and everyone hears it except for you.

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Originally posted by flutlicht junky No one cares about the outro, they just want to hear the next song.

not true


Subtle: you might be right though, I might be the only one not to hear it...and as you guys say, it's just part of the game...

I guess I will have to live with it, sent in a new version with a standard outro...

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Interesting read

read a post once that said "you have to imitate before you can innovate"

I have recently gone through a similar experience, at first I was a little hesitant mainly because I was emotionally attached to my tracks, but I believe the experience was probably one on the best learning experiences I have had, so I'm glad I went along with it

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