they put the warning out in the open now so the people behind vengeance can't get in shit when a random artist uses a loop VENGEANCE stole from someone else's track without their permission me thinks

I think when everyone from TA downloads it off BT, they won't be reading the EULA

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hmmm then don't use their samples from that pack?

There are plenty of other legit high quality sample cd makers

Big Fish, Loopmasters, Zero-G, Ueberschall to name a few.

Use them for samples if you can't find exactly what you need on Vinyl.

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also written in the license:

"Each Sample CD has got it's unique frequency watermark,
so our legal department can track every
illegal copy on the internet back to it's
original licensor."

then why should it be necessary to contact them if you use the samples in a commercial release... if they can just track you down...
or is that just bull?

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they're most likely bluffing me thinks

I can then start sueing them for stealing a loop of mine. :-)

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Good, they're indirectly admitting there's something fishy about it. Sample cd's should be cleared and royalty free. Always. Otherwise there's something wrong.

And yes they would most likely be bluffing.

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Yes vengeances situation is quite worrying. A LOT of their samples are sampled directly form other peoples music and even older sample cds, even their loops. All commercial sample libraries should be completely royalty free imo, otherwise you are basically getting ripped off.

Vengeance are worrying because they sound like rubbish. No other reason. I'm so sick of kick samples which don't have a proper decay

And obviously theres no point in buying the sample pack if you can't use it in your own music..? And how are they going to put a unique frequency watermark on every sample lol. Idiots. I have NO respect

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the watermark thing is a lie... there's no way to do this without affecting the audio.

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Originally posted by echosystm the watermark thing is a lie... there's no way to do this without affecting the audio.

Yup and even if there was, there is no way of doing this, AND ensuring that it reminds exactly as it is post production.

Unless it is 100% the same artifact then you have no case, since it cannot be proven without reasonable doubt of it's origin.

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