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matt_j
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: St. Albert, Canada
Ducking/compression effect without the drums

We've all heard that sound: suppose there's a pad or some other effect going as the kick is beating, and sometimes the compression effect is really obvious.

Now, suppose the kick is removed, but we still hear the pad pulsating as before. How do you get say, Ableton or Cubase to make this effect?

I don't have a sample just yet.

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djsphere
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just mute the kick.


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matt_j
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Registered: Apr 2005
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I'm a newbie, so to me, muting the kick removes most of the compression effect, so the pad no longer 'pulsates'. Somehow I want the program to allow the kick to affect the compression, without actually mixing it in.

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PDM
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Location: Fresno, CA

Sidechain the pad with something else than the kick I suppose. I've never tried it tho.


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retrobyte
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Michigan, USA

In Ableton, at least, you can automate the volume envelopes. I did a tutorial over here on AP:

http://www.audiopioneers.net/forum/...read.php?t=1611

You could also try using some other compressors that don't color the sound as much or not having the ratio on your compressor so high - it's all about playing around with the sound.


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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

route the kick to the sidechaining compressor, but not to the output?


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psyklolink
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Registered: Sep 2005
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just duplicate the kick track. one track to feed the sidechain input of the compressor and the second track is the kick that you actually hear.


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paulc_dj
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: A parallel universe

Talking about Sidechaining, are there any Fruity users out there who properly sidechain, rather than using the peak controller? The problem that I am having is that you cannot have a mono signal from a stereo channel in Fruity. The sidechain works, but only comes out of say the left channel that it is panned to from the source track. I know Cubase has the ability to get a mono signal from the stereo group, settin g the group track to Stereo Dual Panner mode. Is there a plugin to change the stereo groups signal to mono, or does anybody know if there a workaround to this problem?

Thx.


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Honzi
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Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Poland

In FL6's mixer there's a little knob under the section where you instert FX for controlling the stereo separation. To make track mono, just turn it to the right.
And to do sidechaining I use Sidekick


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farris
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Location: NL

Don't mute it. Just pull the volume all the way down. This way the compressor will still get the signal as Pjotr G mentioned. If you just mute it, the compressor will have no signal to sidechain to.

- farris

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Pjotr G
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands

that depends on your routing.
If I turn my kick volume down, nothing gets sent to the sidechain.

my mixer has a little knob and if it is pressed the output gets sent to the main output bus, and otherwise it doesn't


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farris
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: NL

True, I was more talking about when using the Compdare compressor for instance. Using that one, you can put the volume down and still have the sidechain effect .

- farris

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