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cl0ckw3rk
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Houston, Texas
Around what freq do kicks extend?

I've been experimenting with layering 909/808 kicks, and I'm a noob so I'm just wondering whats the typical freq range for a kick from low to high? And is all the rumble below like..40Hz or so? The low range is easier to tell but I don't know whats typical for the high range

Here's a sample:
Keep in mind this is a first effort!

909 3-layer

criticism much appreciated!!! if you think its terrible then say so and then tell me why so i can learn


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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen

add a spectral analysis plugin and check it out ! every kick is different

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cl0ckw3rk
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well I've been trying to EQ so that I use a low, mid, and high from 3 different kicks and i was just wondering around what freq i should should start cutting the highs


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mysticalninja
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Los Angeles

get used to doing 2 first, anyway id say 4-6khz+ for the high end part of the kick. for the low end of your kick 40hz and below is way too low, the low end kick should be lowpassed around 80hz.

your kick is rubish, no high end at all you need something there, and really no low end either too punch. use this as your mid kick dont throw it away.


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azndragon0613
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if the big hunk of the kick is at 100 hz is that ok?


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cl0ckw3rk
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quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja

your kick is rubish, no high end at all you need something there, and really no low end either too punch. use this as your mid kick dont throw it away.


whats the cure for this? or at least, what would you do to fix it? use one kick with more low end and another with more high end?


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mysticalninja
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quote:
Originally posted by azndragon0613
if the big hunk of the kick is at 100 hz is that ok?


id say no, i think most kicks peak around 60hz.

quote:
Originally posted by cl0ckw3rk
whats the cure for this? or at least, what would you do to fix it? use one kick with more low end and another with more high end?


id use this as my mid kick, and layer it with a low end fatty low passed around 80hz, and a high end hitter highpassed around 4khz


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cl0ckw3rk
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quote:
Originally posted by mysticalninja
id use this as my mid kick, and layer it with a low end fatty low passed around 80hz, and a high end hitter highpassed around 4khz


thanks, this is what I needed to know!


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jey
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quote:
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whats the cure for this? or at least, what would you do to fix it? use one kick with more low end and another with more high end?


the cure for u would be to buy some good kick samples, learn how to eq and compress them to taste....

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kitphillips
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

I think rumble is mainly just above the 40 hz mark, everything below is inaudible. So most small speakers will just pass straight over it.
I'm really not sure as to whether you should high pass your kick, on the one hand it will avoid false triggering your limiters etc, but on the other, you'll lose that stuff in a club which will jump out the subs and hit people in the chest and shake the floors etc. So if that's why your asking about the rumble, consider that.

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cl0ckw3rk
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Houston, Texas

well i'm frustrated...can't get a kick to sound anywhere near decent. guess i'll just keep at it


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G-Con
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: England

Personally I wouldnt waste time trying to craft a decent kick myself. Just get a good sample pack of kicks, pick one you like and get on with the rest of the song. Nobody will know if you made it yourself or not and no one will give a shit either way.


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