Hey guys, how's it going? Good? Cool.

If I can get some help on this I'd appreaciate it. Anyway, let's get to the point here... I have a song that I usually listen to daily because it's just "that" good. It's from Pascal Dafoe and it's called "Detroit". What I want to do is manipulate the side-chained pad that's on the melody of the song. But my problem is that I have no clue if it's a Saw pad or any other type of waveform for me to work with, in fact, I'm not a very good synth programmer at all, I'm actually still learning.

Here's a sample of the pad I'm talking about that sidechains in the song:
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


It's beautiful man. Pure epic and emotional which fits my taste in Progressive Trance and/or Uplifting. May I also ask someone also to try and manipulate the pad, upload the sample, and explain how you tweaked it? I'd very much appreaciate it. It will teach me how to program my own epic sounding pads like this particular one, and I definitely think that it will help me a lot while I'm producing.


Thanks a lot, I appreaciate your time and help.
Cheers dude,
-Jordan

Last edited by MidnightBlue on Jan-07-2007 at 10:11

Hey man - I like that too! It sounds good. Don't know what to tell ya except experiment. It doesn't sound like a supersaw to me.

sounds more like sin/square

___________________
www.illysounds.com

Here guys, I tried to manipulate it myself in Absynth 3 and I still think I'm no where close to it, besides the chord notes that I got right (it's not hard when you play piano). What I did was add a sine/saw and tweaked it up from there. I also added a very soft bass so it adds texture to it. Besides everything else, that's all I accomplished here.

At least I tried my best:
[[ LINK REMOVED ]]


If anyone can try manipulating it themselves I will be very happy appreaciated.


Thanks a lot guys!

Anyone?

Wouldn't a simple gate give the same effect?

you should save your money and buy a Virus TI if you wanna make it big dude.

quote:

Originally posted by camsr you should save your money and buy a Virus TI if you wanna make it big dude.

Eh, the Virus TI is a powerful synth, sure. But it's hardly needed.

quote:

Originally posted by camsr you should save your money and buy a Virus TI if you wanna make it big dude.

bull shit

a workman should never blame his tools.

Kuffdam and plant use only software - u just gotta know what your doing.

By using a sampler as well it opens up new sounds........

___________________
Persequor - Midnight Saviour
Persequor - Midnight Saviour (Sean Tyas mix) Out soon on MPFS Records
Persequor - Bandito/Subby , Out now on Diverted Recordings
Persequor Shine On/Living It out now on MPFS Records
Factoria Abduction Persequor mix out soon on Diverted Recordings
Perseaquor Nombre out soon on Diverted


www.myspace.com/Persequor1

quote:

Originally posted by camsr you should save your money and buy a Virus TI if you wanna make it big dude.

I'm not going to buy a TI yet. If I bought a TI it would be sitting there in dust, I wouldn't know what I would be doing with it yet.

quote:

Originally posted by Fledz Wouldn't a simple gate give the same effect?

I have no clue, that's why I asked someone to try and manipulate it for me. It's up to you guys though, it would be nice.

quote:

Originally posted by djms bull shit a workman should never blame his tools. Kuffdam and plant use only software - u just gotta know what your doing. By using a sampler as well it opens up new sounds........

I agree 100% with you. And yes, a lot of big producers out there use software. Maor Levi for example, and you can do the same thing with VST's because they're just virtual and almost exactly the same as hardware synths. If you know how to program good, using VST's will be the same thing as using hardware in my opinion - I'm going to bring Absynth 4 into this sentance and say that if you know how to use Absynth then you're basically "programming", Absynth is very powerful.

Yea, try a gate on a pad. I'm assuming you know what a gate is? If not, just ask Muck around with the settings and you should get a similar effect

As for the Virus TI, that is such stupid advice. I'm sorry, but you don't tell people to buy expensive equipment just because it's the best. You don't even need it as it was previously mentioned and if you do eventually get it, I'm sure that you will be at a point where you can decide for yourself whether you need it or not. The worst thing is when new producers go out and spend a whole load of money on things they won't be using for a while, or at all.

Good luck with it

quote:

Originally posted by Fledz Yea, try a gate on a pad. I'm assuming you know what a gate is? If not, just ask Muck around with the settings and you should get a similar effect As for the Virus TI, that is such stupid advice. I'm sorry, but you don't tell people to buy expensive equipment just because it's the best. You don't even need it as it was previously mentioned and if you do eventually get it, I'm sure that you will be at a point where you can decide for yourself whether you need it or not. The worst thing is when new producers go out and spend a whole load of money on things they won't be using for a while, or at all. Good luck with it

But that's not a gate. It's sidechained. The gain reduction is tied to the kick's amplitude, not a midi automation. And the method of gain reduction will have nothing to do with the richness of the sound. If you want a richer sound, use choruses, use unison, use detuning. Then sidechain the pad. There's not much else I can say.

___________________

www.jexmusic.com - My website