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Originally posted by floyd741 I'm currently working on a vocal trance (has a balearic feel to it, I think) and I was wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions as to the lyrics I should use for the song. After listening to it, the words will end up sounding like the way the lines "Got a feeling so high You’re held against the times" from the song So High by Starchaser. So far I have "Watching birds fly floating in the sky" then, "across the sunset" but the watching birds fly seems silly to me. If anyone could help me out that would be great. It should realte to the whole island/beach thing, I have waves crashing in the beginning. Also, if someone could point me to some nice samples of seagulls, I would eternally be in their debt. The ones I find seem to have too many seagulls at the same time. They're too crazy sounding when I want a more relaxed feel. Thanks in advance if anyone decides to help.

Don't have pure seagull samples but the ones on "beachball" are quite subtle.

As for lyrics, I don't mean to be rude but do something meaningful. Lyrics should come from some experience and something with depth, not just a tacky watercolor painting. Make it abstract if you need to - the usual sunsets and waves shit is like singing about unicorns and rainbows. There are so many cheesey tracks out there that would have been a decent instrumental.

I hate to say it, but I agree with DJ RANN 100%. I think it's great that you're posting your lyrics and I applaud you for having the guts to do that, but yeah, those lyrics don't really don't seem to say anything meaningful that wouldn't be better done in a music-only context, leaving the interpretation up to the listener. I'm not a lyricist and I personally think it's one of the more difficult aspects of songwriting. So, I certainly hope this doesn't discourage you, but forces you to look deeper inside for something more meaningful to say or, at least, a more creative way to say it as DJR suggested.

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Well, thanks. I never thought of it like that. I always just saw lyrics as a nice filler in trance so I guess that's what I tried to do. And because I'm still very novice at making music so I needed something to spruce it up. Plus, it gets me a chance to tell this girl I kind of like "Wow, that was great. You have a beautiful voice." emphasis on the beautiful.

Lyrics should match the vibe, mood, dynamics, and emotions of the music for the biggest impact, and to avoid dissonance between the lyrics and the music.


The Fugees did it well in 'Ready Or Not'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUrJdf4PbEk

The music should dictate the lyrics

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The "balearic" and "beach" theme with waves and seagulls is the most overused cliche in trance. It's like trying to write a love poem and starting it out with "Roses are red, violets are blue." Just don't.

If you have nothing to say, why are you even writing lyrics or music in the first place?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The "balearic" and "beach" theme with waves and seagulls is the most overused cliche in trance. It's like trying to write a love poem and starting it out with "Roses are red, violets are blue." Just don't. If you have nothing to say, why are you even writing lyrics or music in the first place?

Food in the form of thought. Agreed

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles If you have nothing to say, why are you even writing lyrics or music in the first place?

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Originally posted by floyd741 Plus, it gets me a chance to tell this girl I kind of like "Wow, that was great. You have a beautiful voice." emphasis on the beautiful.

That's why. I have nothing to say and if I make a cliche trance song, so be it. I'm a 16 year old kid just messing around with Fruity Loops. Most of my stuff will be either terrible but original, or decent yet completely cliche.

Or terrible AND completely cliche.

Last edited by floyd741 on May-12-2009 at 15:10

Maybe a bit cliché but:
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Watching birds fl-y, floating in the sky,
Waiting for the ti-de, to wash away my pride,
Saving for the da-y, that you'll be by my side,
once again.....
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Don't laugh at me because I'm vulnerable right now ...

Well, basicly, the lyrics I wrote could be about girl losing her boy because she was to stubborn to wash his clothes . (Well, ofcourse the lyrics have another meaning, but I don't want to seem too melo-dramatic right now )...


p.s. good luck on the girl

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Originally posted by Theran Maybe a bit cliché but: =============================================== Watching birds fl-y, floating in the sky, Waiting for the ti-de, to wash away my pride, Saving for the da-y, that you'll be by my side, once again..... ===============================================

So it's cool if I use that?

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Originally posted by Theran p.s. good luck on the girl

Thanks

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Originally posted by floyd741 So far I have "Watching birds fly floating in the sky" then, "across the sunset" but the watching birds fly seems silly to me. If anyone could help me out that would be great.

If you're a native english speaker then this SHOULD seem silly to you. Ask a decent poet to write your lyrics, or listen to some decent stuff. Underworld is one of my favourites for lyrics.

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Just saw your 16. I wrote some horrible stuff when I first started so I take it all back. Go for gold son.

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