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Richard Butler
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What compressor do use use for side chain duties?

Ever since getting Cubase 5 I've always thought side chaining the standard compressor do give not all together satisfactory results. Can't seem to get that 'whack' on synths as the compressor ducks.

I feed the side chain with short percussive sounds and have tried many different impulses.

Sometimes I just draw volume curves without any compressor to get a side - chained type effect.

Also I find with mid basses some annoying mid clicky type sounds emmerge no matter how I adjust the attack or other controls.

Someone said I would be better with Camel Phatt. Any advice for me?


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Andy28
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Re: What compressor do use use for side chain duties?

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Also I find with mid basses some annoying mid clicky type sounds emmerge no matter how I adjust the attack or other controls.



Can you change the circuit type on the compressor? A different type should solve this.

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Raphie
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Registered: Jun 2008
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try to use the vintage compressor in Cubase has a bit different flavour. I now use Vengeance Sidechain, works perfect for me.

Waves API-2500 does it quite ok as well


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kevin shawn
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Logics built in compressor with the Class A_U circuit type gives a nice pumping sound.


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DJ RANN
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Can't help with Cubase (Logic's compressor is superb for sidechaining and most other tasks) but have you tried using a clap or a snare as the sidechain trigger). Shorter sounds can work better as a trigger, then it's just down to setting the release, attack and ratio to taste

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aliastheJ
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I use Ableton Live's Compressor and it's been great so far, easy to use and get the hang of. I can't really help with the Cubase part, but in my experience its all about the ratio and the ammount. If there is a clicking sound on the bass then change the attack in the sampler according to the ratio in the compressor and you should hit a sweet spot.

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Rebel Brown
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Can't help with Cubase (Logic's compressor is superb for sidechaining and most other tasks)


Took the words right off my keyboard. Like RANN said, try something with with a shorter, sharper transient.

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Re: What compressor do use use for side chain duties?

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I feed the side chain with short percussive sounds.

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derail
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Re: What compressor do use use for side chain duties?

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Originally posted by Richard Butler
Ever since getting Cubase 5 I've always thought side chaining the standard compressor do give not all together satisfactory results.


I use the Cubase compressor and have no problems getting it to sound the way I want it to. It can pump as hard as you want, it's all in the settings you use.

I feed the compressor with a separate sidechain input, which is turned all the way down. The signal is sent to the relevant sidechain channel(s), at 0dB (pre-fader, naturally).

Then set the amount of pump and timing with the compressor's controls. If you want that heavily pumping, offbeat style sidechain, set a high ratio and simply use the "hold" control to position the sound to come in in time with the offbeat. To get even more of an effect, lower the threshold on the compressor.

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DJMARK BRUTON
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well said derail the standard cubase sidechain is spot on ..i think it could be your not puting the pre-fader on i had that problem when i switched to cubase recently from ableton

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Re: What compressor do use use for side chain duties?

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Ever since getting Cubase 5 I've always thought side chaining the standard compressor do give not all together satisfactory results. Can't seem to get that 'whack' on synths as the compressor ducks.

I feed the side chain with short percussive sounds and have tried many different impulses.

Sometimes I just draw volume curves without any compressor to get a side - chained type effect.

Also I find with mid basses some annoying mid clicky type sounds emmerge no matter how I adjust the attack or other controls.

Someone said I would be better with Camel Phatt. Any advice for me?


Tried tweaking the attack, release and knee? You probably want a harder knee and longer attack...


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Pagan-za
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Registered: May 2010
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I've finally figured out how to do it nicely with FL's limiter, so no more automations or peak controllers or messing around. Still feels like the limiter just ducks it and doesnt pump it though, although with a bit of gain compensation I can get that feel almost.

My favourite compressor for sidechaining is actually Abletons compressor.


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