Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Sample packs and production !!
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Share
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Grazba
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Alfiers, Algeria
Question Sample packs and production !!

Hello every one !
last week i found a remix contest the song is made by benjani its called naya ! so i DL the pack and try to make something !
yesterday i get the vengance club 3 sample pack , so i started listening to what 's inside it and in a folder called secial sounds there are some cool synth loops ! and guess what !! THAT guy benjani his ENTIRE song is made from 5 loops from that folder ??????? even the main melody !!
so my question is what about the rights i mean could i use the same melody (kuz i have the pack too ???) or the same bass lines !!
thank you !! ^^


___________________
2B || !2B !!
ASOT is the greatest source for good trance !!!

Wanna get an MPK49 :s !

Old Post Jan-06-2010 10:15  Algeria
Click Here to See the Profile for Grazba Click here to Send Grazba a Private Message Add Grazba to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Acton
Like a FCKNG BIRD



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: London

Well that wouldn't be very original, would it?

I would say wrong forum, but I don't particularly want this in the Production Forum either, you can deal with it Stu .


___________________

>>> Beatport Stuff <<<

Old Post Jan-06-2010 11:23  England
Click Here to See the Profile for Acton Click here to Send Acton a Private Message Visit Acton's homepage! Add Acton to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
n3lly
www.n3lly.com



Registered: May 2003
Location: Dublin

quote:
Originally posted by Acton

I would say wrong forum, but I don't particularly want this in the Production Forum either, you can deal with it Stu .


+1 So I'm passing it over to you guys

Old Post Jan-06-2010 13:12 
Click Here to See the Profile for n3lly Click here to Send n3lly a Private Message Visit n3lly's homepage! Add n3lly to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
asdfg
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2005
Location:

yes, you could use the same 5 loops but i will laugh at you in the same way i would laugh at benjani if i ever heard his tracks

Old Post Jan-06-2010 13:17 
Click Here to See the Profile for asdfg Click here to Send asdfg a Private Message Add asdfg to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
MSZ
godspeed



Registered: Jun 2005
Location: kill me

weak

Old Post Jan-06-2010 13:18  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for MSZ Click here to Send MSZ a Private Message Add MSZ to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Mr.Mystery
Static Guru



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

I wonder if he cleared the samples...


___________________
Latest releases:
Endless Cycles [Capital Heaven]
The Charlatan [Morphosis]

Old Post Jan-06-2010 13:40  Finland
Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Mystery Click here to Send Mr.Mystery a Private Message Add Mr.Mystery to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Grazba
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Dec 2009
Location: Alfiers, Algeria

He just changed the bpm and added a beat the simplest beat ever i mean the kick snare thing !! a loop for a bassline a second bassline loop a loop for the melody and a loop for an offbeat bass and two atmoshpere loops every thing is by default in the VEC3 package :s !!
i wont remix this i wont be pride of myself if i did ^^ thanks every one for ur answers !!


___________________
2B || !2B !!
ASOT is the greatest source for good trance !!!

Wanna get an MPK49 :s !

Old Post Jan-06-2010 16:41  Algeria
Click Here to See the Profile for Grazba Click here to Send Grazba a Private Message Add Grazba to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Acton
Like a FCKNG BIRD



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: London

quote:
Originally posted by Grazba
He just changed the bpm and added a beat the simplest beat ever i mean the kick snare thing !! a loop for a bassline a second bassline loop a loop for the melody and a loop for an offbeat bass and two atmoshpere loops every thing is by default in the VEC3 package :s !!
i wont remix this i wont be pride of myself if i did ^^ thanks every one for ur answers !!


Do you have a sample of the tune in question? And perhaps the samples he used?

I wouldn't mind hearing this 'originality' of his.


___________________

>>> Beatport Stuff <<<

Old Post Jan-06-2010 16:57  England
Click Here to See the Profile for Acton Click here to Send Acton a Private Message Visit Acton's homepage! Add Acton to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
cryophonik
Boom shanka



Registered: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, CA USA


___________________
cryophonik.com | facebook | soundcloud

Sonar Platinum | Ableton Live 9 | Logic Pro X | Access Virus TI2 Keyboard | Kurzweil PC3X | Nord Lead 4R | NI Maschine

Old Post Jan-06-2010 17:05  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for cryophonik Click here to Send cryophonik a Private Message Visit cryophonik's homepage! Add cryophonik to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Cedric K.
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Germany

well i think it wouldn't be illegal because otherwise they would give you the samples seperately and NOT put any loops inside, so you know what they are for... to use them I guess

but as everyone said, that wouldn't be very much of a skill and pretty lame


___________________
Facebook Page
Soundcloud
Youtube
Twitter
Vimeo

Old Post Jan-07-2010 07:29  Germany
Click Here to See the Profile for Cedric K. Click here to Send Cedric K. a Private Message Visit Cedric K.'s homepage! Add Cedric K. to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Kismet7
nononoyesyesyesnonono



Registered: Dec 2008
Location: earf

Depends on the sample. If its something from an "organic instrument" that it would be impossible to play for various reasons, one being not having a violin, trumpet, sax, ready and available player etc, but the melody/sound fits your idea, nothing wrong with using a sample.

Producers make entire songs using different samples from different released songs, creatively what is the difference between using a sample from a sample cd or taking it from a record? But yah it is a bit awkward to have every single loop in your track come from a sample cd, or without any cutting changes to the samples.

Samples thats come from synthesis, i'd say either change the way the sample sounds, or make your own with the syntthetic sound creating tools you have.

You have to realise the reason why people use samples is that the sample has what the producer/artist has in their head, or when they hear the sample it fits their creative vision. Recreating the exact melody, sound, recording, is not possible for various reasons. Using samples doesnt make anyone any less of a creative mind or artist. At the end of the day how and where they use samples, and the sounds and melodies they choose to accompany the sample is what will make the usage creatively and artistically important. It does take talent to use samples well and write music around them. And the restriction of not being able to change the harmonic or melodic content. A sample is only as good as how well a Producer uses it.


___________________
_____________________________________
commercial and underground electronic music (house/techno/trance/other) will surpass today's hip hop/pop/rock/country in worldwide interest...if it has'nt already.

Last edited by Kismet7 on Jan-07-2010 at 10:40

Old Post Jan-07-2010 10:12  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet7 Click here to Send Kismet7 a Private Message Add Kismet7 to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Mr.Mystery
Static Guru



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
You have to realise the reason why people use samples is that the sample has what the producer/artist has in their head, or when they hear the sample it fits their creative vision. Recreating the exact melody, sound, recording, is not possible for various reasons. Using samples doesnt make anyone any less of a creative mind or artist. At the end of the day how and where they use samples, and the sounds and melodies they choose to accompany the sample is what will make the usage creatively and artistically important. It does take talent to use samples well and write music around them. And the restriction of not being able to change the harmonic or melodic content. A sample is only as good as how well a Producer uses it.

...and when you construct an entire track out of pre-made loops you might as well be using Dance eJay.


___________________
Latest releases:
Endless Cycles [Capital Heaven]
The Charlatan [Morphosis]

Old Post Jan-07-2010 14:33  Finland
Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.Mystery Click here to Send Mr.Mystery a Private Message Add Mr.Mystery to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > DJing / Production / Promotion > Production Studio > Sample packs and production !!
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (2): [1] 2 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackold trance track from OXA Afterhour 93/94 needs ID! [2004] [0]

Click here to listen to the sample!Pause playbackKern Kraft 400 - "Zombie Nation" [2002]

Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread
Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 13:38.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Privacy Statement / DMCA
Support TA!