Lame. I liked it when it was the DJs voting. Now it's the public which means it's gonna be another PR contest or whichever city has the most people who go online who care to vote about clubs.

Not to say when DJs voted it was perfect, but at least you know there wasn't cheating going on.

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Originally posted by DaveT Lame. I liked it when it was the DJs voting. Now it's the public which means it's gonna be another PR or whichever city has the most people who go online who care to vote about clubs. Not to say when DJs voted it was perfect, but at least you know there wasn't cheating going on.

i hear ya dave. i think itd be cool if they have 2 polls. fan and djs.

Why oh why did they open the polling to the public? Now the smaller cities can't compete with the larger cities. They are going to have to split them up to be fair. More money and PR for DJ Mag I guess!

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these polls are about attracting an audience, not achieving fairness or accuracy... why wouldn't they open it to the public? anyway it's not as if the dj has a better basis of comparison than the patron--unless your nightly club experience involves getting shuttled from a hotel to a backdoor entrance 20 minutes before you go on, having free drinks delivered to you while everyone in the room ogles you for being there, then being whisked out the back door immediately after you're done.

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I think there's something bigger whan a DJ likes a club vs just a regular person off the streets. It's even a greater sense of accomplishment.

And again, the DJ poll will at least be a one vote per person/DJ fair type of poll. Now it will be PR based like the DJ poll, and opens up the possibility of someone cheating.

my criteria for "best club" is (1) overall quality of bookings including quality of local support, (2) sound quality, (3) crowd quality, (4) comfort and convenience--which speaks to things like how the staff treats people, line management, availability of free parking, freedom from hassle (ins and outs, smoking weed), and climate control. these are things that the vast majority of touring djs will never have to go through when stopping by their "top club". if the poll is meant to serve the djs only, sure it makes sense the voting should be exclusive to them. if the poll is meant to serve the public, then the dj's perspective is largely meaningless. a good club to me is one where i feel like i have the freedom of a house party with concert-quality sound.

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Or a T-Bar, or a Robert-Johnson, or a Watergate

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I think the only fair way to get an accurate BEST CLUB would be to send the same group of people to all the clubs nominated and set some sort of criteria. That way they can experience all the clubs. Cuz if a DJ or an average Joe votes, they're going to vote for the clubs they been to. I can't vote for Ruby Sky cause I never been to it. But I went to 1015 and I loved it. That was a few years back and I guarantee you 1015 isn't the same anymore.

I can't vote for MOS cuz I never been to it, so it would be unfair as a DJ or as a club goer for me to vote for it.

I guess what I'm saying is that not all clubs are being represented equally.

Funny how it says this...

"You can vote for either your favorite venue, event or both. You must specify the city."

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Originally posted by R!CH these polls are about attracting an audience, not achieving fairness or accuracy... why wouldn't they open it to the public? anyway it's not as if the dj has a better basis of comparison than the patron--unless your nightly club experience involves getting shuttled from a hotel to a backdoor entrance 20 minutes before you go on, having free drinks delivered to you while everyone in the room ogles you for being there, then being whisked out the back door immediately after you're done.

Of course the DJ's opinion is much more valuable for a poll like this.

How many clubs a year does the average club kid visit over the year. Probably not many outside of his/her own hometown. A DJ is traveling to a different club every other weekend at least, his opinion is based upon many different clubbing experiences over the course of the year

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Originally posted by darin epsilon Why oh why did they open the polling to the public? Now the smaller cities can't compete with the larger cities. They are going to have to split them up to be fair. More money and PR for DJ Mag I guess!

so that they can skew the results with ease? kinda how they do with the DJ poll already...

with a smaller amount of people voting...like just DJs its harder for them to skew results towards their interests.

By the way, it makes no sense to have a poll for this sort of thing.

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