10.49billion wow.

Yeah I'm surprised people aren't getting pissed off. I mean, if the price of gasoline jumps because of economic problems, there wouldn't be much of a profit because the company is hurting enough to raise prices.

This is just rape, plain and simple. The whole world feels it now, and we are helpless because we are so damn dependent on oil and gas. These companies are playing with our well-being. I'm not talking about conspiracy theory bilderberg, Illuminati bullshit, this is just businessmen gaining everything and the consumers losing and hurting.

Forget the death of Habeus Corpus, this effects everyone, in real time, and everyone would rather talk about 9/11 conspiracies and partisan politics.

I say we do something about it, because i'm not paying $3.75 per gallon ever again, I shouldn't even be spending $2.00.

Petitions (Not online petitions, they suck) National strike? Global strike? More aggressive actions?

Options.

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Well, how much of their money comes from selling gas at gas stations?

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Originally posted by Sunsnail Well, how much of their money comes from selling gas at gas stations?

It goes well beyond gas stations. I am using it as an example, because everyone drives a car. But to think about the number of gas stations in new jersey alone is mind boggling.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers Forget the death of Habeus Corpus, this effects everyone, in real time, and everyone would rather talk about 9/11 conspiracies and partisan politics. I say we do something about it, because i'm not paying $3.75 per gallon ever again, I shouldn't even be spending $2.00.

Yeah, I should be so much more concerned that it costs $1 more/gallon than the fact that civil liberties are being stripped.

I must have missed that part where we were guaranteed life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and cheap gasoline.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Yeah, I should be so much more concerned that it costs $1 more/gallon than the fact that civil liberties are being stripped. I must have missed that part where we were guaranteed life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and cheap gasoline.

We actually should have been promised "Life, Liberty, and Property". But Thomas Jefferson realized that it meant everyone was entitled to their own piece of land, and that threatened the upper class. "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" caters to the rich, and puts down the non-opportunistic, and the lower class.

Big business ties into our liberties, mind you.

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Originally posted by Marc Summers "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" caters to the rich, and puts down the non-opportunistic, and the lower class. Big business ties into our liberties, mind you.

Ofcourse, wouldn't a real pursuit of happiness entail a more liberatarian approach to the issue. In the US's nanny state approach, I see the pursuit of happiness to only mean the pursuit of economic happiness, for only a few who benifit from this freedom. In other words, when the ideal American happiness comes up, does it pretty much automatically mean economic happiness, and how much wealth and status and things you own to mean happiness.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy Yeah, I should be so much more concerned that it costs $1 more/gallon than the fact that civil liberties are being stripped.

Like Marc Summers said, big buisness does concern civil liberties, especially in this country. Can people in this country really do anything without gasoline?

It's possible for maybe a city dweller who has close access to certain items, but what about the mess that shitty suberban urban planning left. I don't know about you, but where I lived before I went to college, it would be highly improbable to do anything (go get groceries, see a friend, rent a movie, etc.) without a car. If I wanted to work, I had to drive, there was no other option.

People say that the US is addicted to oil, but I don't think it's the citizens fault. It's not like they choose to use alot of gas or not, it's that the only means of doing anything is through the use of gasoline. I think this has to do with poor urban planning that focused on the American dream ideal life, spreading everything out, not looking into what would happen if people didn't have the means of making their way through the suberban mess.

If you think that big buiseness doesn't effect the the civil liberties of the US, you are mistaken.

Big Buisness=big government, different form, same result.

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Originally posted by OurManFlint Like Marc Summers said, big buisness does concern civil liberties, especially in this country. Can people in this country really do anything without gasoline? It's possible for maybe a city dweller who has close access to certain items, but what about the mess that shitty suberban urban planning left. I don't know about you, but where I lived before I went to college, it would be highly improbable to do anything (go get groceries, see a friend, rent a movie, etc.) without a car. If I wanted to work, I had to drive, there was no other option. People say that the US is addicted to oil, but I don't think it's the citizens fault. It's not like they choose to use alot of gas or not, it's that the only means of doing anything is through the use of gasoline. I think this has to do with poor urban planning that focused on the American dream ideal life, spreading everything out, not looking into what would happen if people didn't have the means of making their way through the suberban mess. If you think that big buiseness doesn't effect the the civil liberties of the US, you are mistaken. Big Buisness=big government, different form, same result.

I wasn't saying not to be concerned about it. I simply had an issue with him advocating that it was more important than the habeus corpus issue.

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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul