Don't you just love GMOs?

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Sick people used like laboratory rats in GM trials By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor Published: 04 March 2007 Genetically modified potatoes developed by Monsanto, the multinational biotech company, have been fed to sick patients in an experiment. Rats that ate similar potatoes in the research suffered reductions in the weight of their hearts and prostate glands. Dr Michael Antoniou, reader in molecular genetics at Guy's, King's and St Thomas' School of Medicine, said use of humans was "irresponsible and totally unethical, especially when already ill subjects were enrolled. These people truly were guinea pigs." Other scientists said the trials were too short, on too few people, to give meaningful results of long-term effects. Monsanto said the vegetables were safe, and the researchers conducting the experiment said effects on the rats were within "permissible" limits. The experiment is described in a hitherto unpublished report by the Nutrition Institute of the Russian Academy of Medical Science, done "by agreement with Monsanto Company" in 1998. The report says "10 patients suffering from hypertensive disease and ischemic heart disease" were fed a pound of the Russet Burbank potatoes - modified to resist Colorado beetles - every day for three weeks, and monitored. It goes on: "A certain risk of GM food products for human health does exist, as there can be by-effects of inserted genes besides the designed ones." The report describes the patients as "volunteers" and says they liked the GM potato so much they all "expressed their intention to consume it at home". After comparing them with 10 other patients fed conventional potatoes, the report concludes: "The genetically modified potato provided by Monsanto did not reveal toxic, mutagenic, immune modulating and allergic effects within the examined parameters of the present experiment". It recommended the GM potatoes "can be used for human nutrition purposes in further epidemiological research". The report says the rats, tested over six months, suffered "increases of kidneys' absolute weight" when compared to ones fed conventional potatoes but that all changes were "within permissible physiological fluctuation". But Dr Irina Ermakova, of the Russian Academy of Science, calls the GM potatoes "dangerous" for rats, adding: "On this evidence, they cannot be used in the nourishment of people". Tony Coombs from Monsanto UK said in a statement: "Potatoes genetically improved to prevent Colorado beetle destroying the crop have already been consumed, as safely as conventional or organic ones, in North America for years."

Source: The Independent

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Cue response from Magneto with a video link in 5....4...3..

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Originally posted by Shakka Cue response from Magneto with a video link in 5....4...3..

Is that all you can think of? Personalizing it to Magnetonium? Pretty sad.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Is that all you can think of? Personalizing it to Magnetonium? Pretty sad.

Fuck you dipshit. Surly you remember his post on Monsanto and genetic seeds, etc that was posted a while back? He posted a video link. I was saying nothing good or bad about him or your thread other than to acknowledge that he had started a topic on this in the past and would likely reply to this one. God, you can be such a ****rag.

I think this was the thread if you need a refresher.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=373861

douchebag.

Last edited by Shakka on Mar-07-2007 at 18:27

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Originally posted by Shakka Fuck you dipshit. Surly you remember his post on Monsanto and genetic seeds, etc that was posted a while back? He posted a video link. I was saying nothing good or bad about him or your thread other than to acknowledge that he had started a topic on this in the past and would likely . God, you can be such a ****rag. I think this was the thread if you need a refresher. http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=373861 douchebag.

I remember that thread. Not one of your standard responses, but thanks.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

my pleasure.

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Originally posted by Shakka my pleasure.

I'm sure it is.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

I'm going to start signing up for university studies, hopefully involving MDMA or LSD.

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AAAAAA Shakkkka ... that thread, if I'd do that argument all over again today I have more reliable and important info, but I am not interested especiallly while I'm in the middle of a busy stretch in college and the complete pointlessness of it anyhow. Gotta maintain my 95% average ;-). And reference for me hitting the video link is uncalled for, just because you didnt like what you heard on that thread. Its only an insult and mock on me, so I am glad Shaolin got you insulted the way you should have felt for trying to instigate me into your trap. Thanks, but no thanks.

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I recommend anyone to watch movies THE FUTURE OF FOOD, THE CORPORATION and WHO KILLED ELECTRIC CAR to see exactly how corporate profits are living off people's well-being, health and financial security. Health industry is big business that doesnt want cures that will put it out of business.

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Originally posted by Magnetonium EDIT: I recommend anyone to watch movies THE FUTURE OF FOOD, THE CORPORATION and WHO KILLED ELECTRIC CAR to see exactly how corporate profits are living off people's well-being, health and financial security. Health industry is big business that doesnt want cures that will put it out of business.[/COLOR]

Jesus, what the hell are kids being taught other than how to continue with school forever and the best Che shirt to wear to the next kumbiya round-up?

I think you need to understand corporations a LOT better besides picking and choosing ones and then veiling capitalism, as a whole, as 'evil'.

It's one thing to be informed of certain corporate practices, hell I'll even agree to your point regarding the health and wellness industry, however there is this one dimensional, frankly-regressive acute utopian disorder that permeates a lot of your posts.
For someone with your average, I think you're about to get a rude awakening once you hit the real world and get that little piece of paper before moving to a job with a 'corporation' like McDonald's...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Jesus, what the hell are kids being taught other than how to continue with school forever and the best Che shirt to wear to the next kumbiya round-up?

Ha ha ha

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I think you need to understand corporations a LOT better besides picking and choosing ones and then veiling capitalism, as a whole, as 'evil'.

Walmart bitches!!

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It's one thing to be informed of certain corporate practices, hell I'll even agree to your point regarding the health and wellness industry, however there is this one dimensional, frankly-regressive acute utopian disorder that permeates a lot of your posts. For someone with your average, I think you're about to get a rude awakening once you hit the real world and get that little piece of paper before moving to a job with a 'corporation' like McDonald's...

Real world?? where outside of the Univeristy's Commons area??


Generation X Rules!!

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I recommend anyone to watch movies THE FUTURE OF FOOD, THE CORPORATION and WHO KILLED ELECTRIC CAR to see exactly how corporate profits are living off people's well-being, health and financial security. Health industry is big business that doesnt want cures that will put it out of business.

I watched the Who Killed the Electric Car. good movie.