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melech_mike
Kill Arafat Alliance



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Toronto (Thornhill)
Behold, my arse. Hilarious contradiction by the anti-war supports!

quote:
Originally posted by JohnSmith
I also publish a website:
http://www27.brinkster.com/antiwar/
helping to organize people in my area.

I have committed myself to not buying american products, or gasoline or oil while this conflict is still on. The insurance on my car comes off this weekend.

We ARE making a difference, and we will NOT give up.


As a good friend of mine (who at the moment isn't able to post for himself) pointed out to me, the server that hosts your anti-america bullshit is run by an american company!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHA... you crack me up.
you boycott American Products, yet you publish your website on an American server whos headquarters is in Virginia! The exact address being: 885 Kempsville Rd
Suite 309
Norfolk, VA 23502
USA

Whats up with that?

Ohh, and JohnSmith - tiesto14 says hi!
HAhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

hhhhhhhmmmmm.

OK! well melech, you and i and all the ppl in their right mind know that all these anti war protesters do is contradict themselves all the time. peace this peace that bullshit. hence the arrests in my home city of Seattle, and San Fran.

i dont really think they know what they REALLY stand for. ...

>JM<

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occrider
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I don't think Johnsmith is anti-american so much as he is anti-war. Hehe what you should be asking is whether this company is anti-war or not! If not you should extend your boycott to this company john haha.

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DaveSZ
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Registered: Jan 2003
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John, if you decide to boycott your computer I;ll gladly take it.

Not making fun of you, just saying......


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jdat
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quote:
Originally posted by occrider
I don't think Johnsmith is anti-american so much as he is anti-war. Hehe what you should be asking is whether this company is anti-war or not! If not you should extend your boycott to this company john haha.



then boycott the whole freaking internet


most backbones go through the usa at least in this part of the world + the telco you're using will be no matter what be linked to the usa either usa owned or affiliated somewhere ( cause telco companies are all linked worlwide ) + boycott the freaking internet, you are aware after all that what we are using is only a military product made freely available to the public? hence by using the internet you are supporting usa research and the developement of it's usa armed forces


seriously in today's society as much as you say war don't work, boycotting works even less.

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melech_mike
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quote:
Originally posted by jdat
then boycott the whole freaking internet


most backbones go through the usa at least in this part of the world + the telco you're using will be no matter what be linked to the usa either usa owned or affiliated somewhere ( cause telco companies are all linked worlwide ) + boycott the freaking internet, you are aware after all that what we are using is only a military product made freely available to the public? hence by using the internet you are supporting usa research and the developement of it's usa armed forces


seriously in today's society as much as you say war don't work, boycotting works even less.


Guess we'll never be seeing JohnSmith around here ever again. JohnSmith, i suggest you put together your 'own' internet!

For the 'world wide web', you could have the 'Limited Liberal Loop'!
Wow, what a great idea! Let me know when its up... but dont email me, because i use hotmail. hope your comp is not made by a US comp!


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mike it's tiesto14 who told you that he came to the chat room to say that , no one paid attention so he left


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melech_mike
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quote:
Originally posted by fastmp3
mike it's tiesto14 who told you that he came to the chat room to say that , no one paid attention so he left


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Alccode
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Oh, wow.

I can't beleive there's so much hate here. Melech_mike, what's gotten into you? You've turned into another tiesto14. Whatever happened to the concept of the Political Forum, discussing ideas objectively? Instead it's become a hotbed of throwing insults and putting down others, in part due to nationalism and racism.

"Thus did Nationalism rear its ugly head once more..."

People! How about you get off your arses, stop listening to your biased egos, and look at things with open eyes?

Go to John's website and read the pledge carefully!

quote:

Because I am one of the millions of people against the war;
(my italics)

Notice, how it doesn't say against America?

quote:

And because the American government has made it clear that it won’t listen to world opinion;


Does anyone seriously, seriously think this is not true?

quote:

And because the symbols of American power are its corporations and their brands;


Ok, this one's a little wishy-washy, see my discussion below.

quote:

I hereby pledge to boycott Brand America, from the moment the war begins and to the best of my ability until the empire learns to listen.


Notice, "I hereby pledge to boycott Brand America."

As in, Imperial America.

As in, American Hegemony.

Not "America" per se, nor American products, nor American ideals, or anything of the sort!

Do you see the distinction?

I think that the line, "And because the symbols of American power are its corporations and their brands," is misleading, because (as I see it) it's intended to give force behind the "Brand America" image, NOT to mean that American corporations and brands must be boycotted! Notice how it doesn't say explicitly that that should be done! It just says, those are its symbols.

John, I'd suggest considering rephrasing that line to clarify this very important point.

Otherwise, it might sound a little hypocritical to those who are not willing to read plainly, but instead choose to read what they want to read, and to interpret it in their own way, as we can see in this thread.

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melech_mike
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quote:
Originally posted by Alccode
Oh, wow.

I can't beleive there's so much hate here. Melech_mike, what's gotten into you? You've turned into another tiesto14. Whatever happened to the concept of the Political Forum, discussing ideas objectively? Instead it's become a hotbed of throwing insults and putting down others, in part due to nationalism and racism.

"Thus did Nationalism rear its ugly head once more..."

People! How about you get off your arses, stop listening to your biased egos, and look at things with open eyes?

Go to John's website and read the pledge carefully!

(my italics)

Notice, how it doesn't say against America?



Does anyone seriously, seriously think this is not true?



Ok, this one's a little wishy-washy, see my discussion below.



Notice, "I hereby pledge to boycott Brand America."

As in, Imperial America.

As in, American Hegemony.

Not "America" per se, nor American products, nor American ideals, or anything of the sort!

Do you see the distinction?

I think that the line, "And because the symbols of American power are its corporations and their brands," is misleading, because (as I see it) it's intended to give force behind the "Brand America" image, NOT to mean that American corporations and brands must be boycotted! Notice how it doesn't say explicitly that that should be done! It just says, those are its symbols.

John, I'd suggest considering rephrasing that line to clarify this very important point.

Otherwise, it might sound a little hypocritical to those who are not willing to read plainly, but instead choose to read what they want to read, and to interpret it in their own way, as we can see in this thread.

Dont shoot the messanger!!!


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Alccode
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Registered: Apr 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by melech_mike
Dont shoot the messanger!!!


Hmm...

quote:

...your anti-america bullshit...


quote:

HAHAHAHAHAHahahahahaAHAHAHAHAHA... you crack me up.


quote:

Guess we'll never be seeing JohnSmith around here ever again.
JohnSmith, i suggest you put together your 'own' internet!


Sorry, but it seems like you're more than just a 'messenger'...

In any case, mike, I'm not personally attacking YOU. I'm attacking those who listen to their prides and not their brains.

Actually, there are easily just as many anti-war people who are like this as are pro-war.

Gives me an idea for a new thread... but I'll get to that later.

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