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Izzy
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Bush's UN speech - reactions?

you can watch the whole video of the speech at www.whitehouse.gov

he talked about the war on terror, the good that has happened in iraq, and the current resolution they are trying to pass, a bit about the palestinian and israeli conflict, world aid agianst desieses and starvation...


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Yoepus
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I think the speech is long, the best part is near the end.

I especially liked Bush's ending statment "God Bless you all" directed at all the nations of the UN.

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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I think the speech is long, the best part is near the end.

I especially liked Bush's ending statment "God Bless you all" directed at all the nations of the UN.


What did you like about it?

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The UN reaction was pretty blunt.

quote:
UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 23 -- President Bush got an earful of complaints from world leaders today but responded with a mild defense of his actions in Iraq and an understated request for U.N. help.

[...]

U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, in an unusually impassioned and sharp condemnation of U.S. policy, said "unilateralism" was an assault on the "collective action" envisioned by the late president Franklin D. Roosevelt and the other U.N. founders.

"This logic represents a fundamental challenge to the principles on which, however imperfectly, world peace and stability have rested for the last 58 years," the secretary general said. "My concern is that, if it were to be adopted, it could set precedents that resulted in a proliferation of the unilateral and lawless use of force, with or without justification."

Annan, who took the rare step of beginning his address in French rather than English, warned: "Excellencies, we have come to a fork in the road. This may be a moment no less decisive than 1945 itself, when the United Nations was founded."

French President Jacques Chirac, speaking shortly after Bush, called the war "one of the gravest trials" in U.N. history and said it "undermined the multilateral system."

In an extended critique of Bush's policy of preemptively attacking emerging threats, Chirac said: "In an open world, no one can live in isolation, no one can act alone in the name of all, and no one can accept the anarchy of a society without rules. There is no alternative to the United Nations."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...-2003Sep23.html


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I think the speech is long, the best part is near the end.

I especially liked Bush's ending statment "God Bless you all" directed at all the nations of the UN.


God Bless America.. its like an american slogan... MmMmmMMmmmm Saddam uses the doctrine and God all the time, and that never got no ones attention?


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- I didnt get to hear the speach, but what I was able to capture is how his rate as president is dropping super-qick, in less then 1 month, it dropped 9%.. now almost everything is about how it was at teh beginning of his presidency. 50%, 50% and 50% there..


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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I especially liked Bush's ending statment "God Bless you all" directed at all the nations of the UN.


he probably said this in the most sardonic manner. Like "god bless you all, cause i'm right, you're wrong and you're going to hell."


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Yoepus
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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
What did you like about it?


I like the fact that it summed up its speech. People precieve him as "God bless America", and his speech was in summary "America gives a fcuk(tm) about the rest of the world" hence "God Bless you all" emphasizes this point, that he cares about the whole world not just America...

And that bastard Kofi Annan.. sucking up to the French and their lousy position by opening in French, if I didn't know better I'd say the French payed him to do that too!

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quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
I like the fact that it summed up its speech. People precieve him as "God bless America", and his speech was in summary "America gives a fcuk(tm) about the rest of the world" hence "God Bless you all" emphasizes this point, that he cares about the whole world not just America...

And that bastard Kofi Annan.. sucking up to the French and their lousy position by opening in French, if I didn't know better I'd say the French payed him to do that too!



Did you say he cares about the world?? or atleast.. believe that?!?!?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl thats the funniest things Ive heard in a long time man.. nice one man, will surely make a day to all my friends. Nice one


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Trancer-X
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I think that Feinstein said it best!

"There is nothing new, except more propaganda, more rhetoric, more 'moralizing' -- because I don't think these policies are moral."

Lee Feinstein, Washington director of the Council on Foreign Relations

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Trancer-X
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Score one for CNN. Maybe Turner read my post from yesterday? j/k

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/09/23/sp...t.un/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast...reut/index.html

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rizo
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why should i care about the UN, bush said they are worthless ...oh you tell me bush went back?!? WTF

http://c-span.org/

I did like chirac's speech though

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