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Spacey Orange
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Question Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice?

Is this a good or bad choice? Is she the best person for the job? The correct person?


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Yoepus
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I dunno. I'm sexist. I don't think there has ever been a good women Secretary of State.


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CityKitty
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I disagree with the Bush administration as it is, but Condoleeza makes me laugh. Maybe a bitch as secretary of state is what we need..I'm not sure. She's much more Hawkish than Powell, so it will be interesting to see what she does. Hell, it can't get much worse.


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She appears to be very highly educated, very smart, and a touch chick...besides it appears she's been very responsible for the general success of Bush's administration (in terms of elections and such)...I guess we'll wait and see


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sensorium
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Powell over Rice. Nothing against women. But Powell was the man for the job. I have yet to understand why he left.


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Originally posted by ierxium
Powell over Rice. Nothing against women. But Powell was the man for the job. I have yet to understand why he left.


Apparently it was always his intention to only serve for 1 term. I don't think he enjoys being in the public spotlight very much.

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MisterOpus1
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I love this Administration. Rice was told to be prepared for possible attacks - they happen on 9/11, she lies under oath (hey Repubs. what's that about lying under oath again?) and she gets promoted. Feith essentially fucks up Iraq by giving a kind "fuck off" to anyone who disagreed with the WMD intelligence and desire for a post-war plan, and he gets promoted.

Bush is essentially, well, what the hell hasn't he fucked up? And, of course, he gets another 4 years.

Ahh, politics. Could we just torch this sucker right now? I'll bring the marshmallows and sticks.....


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Spacey Orange
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Originally posted by Shakka on the Mirror Thread. Woops.

Originally posted by Shakka

Well, she's highly qualified, IMO, and she is one of Bush's most trusted cabinet members, so she was a likely selection. Only time will tell if she is the right choice--at this point I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and say I'm optimistic. She'd rather be an NFL coach, though.


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Spacey Orange
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Originally posted by occrider on the Mirror Thread. Woops.

Originally posted by occrider
She was Bush's tutor on foreign policy before he became president. That should say it all. If it doesn't, she's a yes-man clear and simple. Whereas Powell and Rumsfeld duked it out over foreign policy decisions and Powell forced Bush to take the issue to the UN, Rice did nothing to intervene or assert herself in the inter-agency squabbling. Her loyalties are to the President rather than standing up for her own convinctions. Either that or her convinctions always coincide with the President's. She appears to be the absence of forcefullness or convinction, and as such, don't expect much from the state department for the next 4 years.


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Q5echo
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I love this Administration. Rice was told to be prepared for possible attacks - they happen on 9/11, she lies under oath (hey Repubs. what's that about lying under oath again?) and she gets promoted. Feith essentially fucks up Iraq by giving a kind "fuck off" to anyone who disagreed with the WMD intelligence and desire for a post-war plan, and he gets promoted.

Bush is essentially, well, what the hell hasn't he fucked up? And, of course, he gets another 4 years.

Ahh, politics. Could we just torch this sucker right now? I'll bring the marshmallows and sticks.....

so fucking sad you haven't learned how not to be a liberal blame shifter in the face of strength.

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MisterOpus1
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
so fucking sad you haven't learned how not to be a liberal blame shifter in the face of strength.


Hmmm, let's see, answer a few questions for me, if you will:

-Did Iraq have WMD stockpiles, like Wolfowitz, Feith, Rummy, Cheney, and the rest of the neocons have, yes or no?

-Does it honestly appear that we ever had a viable post-war plan by the above characters, yes or no?

-Did Rice state the truth about the Aug. 6th memo - was it truly a "historical document" during her 9/11 testimony, yes or no?

-Did Rice state the truth about increasing funding for counterterrorism activities across several agencies during her 9/11 testimony?

***psst, you might want to Google 2001 vs. 2002 Budget Analysis; NY Times, 2/28/02; Newsweek, 5/27/02 for your answer***

-Did Rice state the truth about not knowing whether or not hijacked planes were a possible option for terrorists to use for attack during her 9/11 testimony?

***you might want to check out ABC News, 5/16/02; NBC, 9/10/02 before answering***

-Was Bush's tax cuts really not contributing to the deficit, as he clearly stated in 2001?

-Do you see any means of Bush really pushing towards reducing the deficit in any manner?

-Considering Bush signed on to these neo-con jackass stories about Iraq and WMD stockpiles, where exactly does the fucking buck stop?



You really ought to check your bullshit rhetoric, Q5 - you Republicans seem to know everything about shifting the fucking blame.

Strength and ignorance do not need to go hand in hand, but that seems pretty fucking fruitless for Bush apologists like you whom never seem to disagree with anything with this fucked up Administration.


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St_Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by ierxium
Powell over Rice. Nothing against women. But Powell was the man for the job. I have yet to understand why he left.


well, Rice fit into the current administration much better than Powell (not that that is a good thing but still ).

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