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Many people have noted, anecdotally, that Democrats always have a hard time being united and effective and tend to "self-destruct" even when enjoying power (as now), whereas Republicans, in contrast, tend to present a formidable, united front, and are very effective.

But why is this so? For the first time, a scientific look at the problem reveals some interesting results.


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The polygons I've drawn over the dots are called convex hulls; they are a geometric way to measure the spread of a set of points. In this case, the hulls tell us the size of the ideological/age base of our political party.

As you can see, the Democrat's base is much larger. And the range of political values it encompasses is vast. Here's party-to-party comparison in tablet form, for easy digestion:



Unlike in many things, size here is a liability. Yes, a political party that's this wide-open is probably a more intellectually stimulating organization to be a part of, and it has a lot more potential power. But bigger base is also just that many more competing viewpoints Democratic politicians must cater to and that many more different viewpoints in play among the actual elected officials themselves.

Also, well over half of the Democratic party's hull lies outside of its upper-right-hand ideological home, implying that you've got many groups of people who might tend Democratic, but who have disagreements with the party on particular issues and could defect, should the slant of the party or the country tilt the wrong way. On the other hand, the Republicans are concentrated in the lower-left-hand corner. This red cluster has multiple, apparently self-reinforcing, reasons to vote with their party, giving the Republicans both a more fervent power base and a little more ideological wiggle-room along either the social or economic axis.

So when you read about the thousands of Catholic nuns who recently came out in favor of health care reform, it's easy to get excited about being a Democrat. But do you think those same people will side with us on things like gay marriage? Or abortion rights? Hull no!


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I don't agree with that at all--I don't even agree with the original premise (I've never even heard that. Anecdotes are cute and all, but are not something to hang your hat on). I think the answer is another one of those things that cuts both ways and it is very simple.

Stated plainly: It is much harder to be the party in power and to stay in power than it is for the minority party to discredit the majority party and knock them back out again. Politics ebbs and flows. This is not news. This is how it has always been. The minority party must constantly regroup and rally around its core beliefs. That is why there is a "united front".

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Stated plainly: It is much harder to be the party in power and to stay in power than it is for the minority party to discredit the majority party and knock them back out again. Politics ebbs and flows. This is not news. This is how it has always been. The minority party must constantly regroup and rally around its core beliefs. That is why there is a "united front".


Exactly my point when we were discussing healthcare reform.

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Exactly my point when we were discussing healthcare reform.


I don't think I'm trying to agree with labeling someone a "party of NO," but I think it is easier for the minority party to naturally regroup to try to find its core message to rally the broadest base they can. Unless you are referring to something else you were saying.

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The said the Democrat majority shouldn't give two shits about Republican opposition. That's the minority party's job. Be the opposition. Exactly for this reason...

"It is much harder to be the party in power and to stay in power than it is for the minority party to discredit the majority party and knock them back out again. Politics ebbs and flows."

Bi-partisanship is a myth unless it has anything to do with a Pearl Harbor-like event, violent crime, or public safety.

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