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Re: Re: This sucks lol...sorry man :P
| quote: | Originally posted by P_Kozy
You may have musical training, yes. Probably much more than myself and Booster. Something that your training obviously didn't teach you though, is that music is an interpretive art form, just like most every other form of art. One does not have to be trained in said field to be able to create, or appreciate music of any kind.
That is like me saying "Just beacause I am en english major, and you don't type with proper grammar, don't use any type of punctuation in your sentences. Better yet, don't type if you can't do it correctly. It annoys every english major that ever lived. I now forbid you from doing so." That's just stupid, wouldn't you say?
He accomplished what he set out to do, he created a piece of music that was special to him. If other people like it as well, that's great. Had it been perfectly scored, that would have been fine too.
Just remember, somebody had to create the rules of which you speak, they are not set in stone, nor should they be. The world would be a sad place if all music were perfectly structured to a specific set of rules. We would be missing out big time. |
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I never said that music HAD to be governed by rules (I specifically said that it did NOT have to be, I only advocated that one learn the traditional rules FIRST before doing whatever the hell he or she wants to) and I understand that any combination of sound can be special to someone as a creative enterprise; however, one thing that angers real students of music are people who have not attempted to actually study the workings of harmony and music theory (that have been "discovered" by our musical forerunners and evolved ofer centuries) and then put out a 27 minute "orchestral" track that gets only GOOD reviews. It actually says more about the REVIEWERS understanding of music than the composer!
Also, because this piece uses traditional instruments and is based on traditional harmony (not 12-tone, serial or phrygian) it should be reviewed in regard to the "rules" that govern those musical elements. Even if he is trying to break from these rules, intentionally (say he already knew what deviations he was employing, which he doesn't), even then, I think the piece sounds horrible and evokes little musical talent. My advice IS good: go study music theory, counterpoint, chords, harmony, music history, and famous composers, listen to REAL orchestral music, learn to play an instrument, learn to read music...etc. OR else, compose in a genre the composer actually knows about.
I understand that my comments might anger the composer, but my opinion represents a large majority of music majors and composers of orchestral music. I think that the composer should convert any offense or ill feelings my comments might have aroused into a real passion to learn more and produce a piece that is musically sound.
I resent what the post modern era has done to young people's understanding of what music is. If you are calling me legalistic or conservative, I am far from it. I am a pianist who plays piano backwards, with random objects, and uses mathematical formulas and constants to work out pieces (those sound like crap to the layman but are employing a directed musical system). I only ask that composers (esp of orchestral music) start out with what has been learned before us and then branch out from there.
For all I know the composer could be 10 years old; if this is so... I wish he had mentioned this and I would have wrote a bit less negative review. I do NOT wish to discourage the composer from composing, but only to strive for excellence.
Cheers,
Matt
Last edited by aeonia on Jan-03-2008 at 03:37
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