I feel your pain m8 as I've been there! Everything I know I've taught myself without anyone to ask & it's a long lonely road (poor me! ). FX can be overwhelming at first & you'll find very little to help you.

Its honestly best just to mess about & experiment. With FX it's all about the timing in the track, the timing of the effect itself (ie 16/1, 8/1, 1/1, 1/2 etc etc etc) & effecting the right parameters (ie any combination of low, mid & hi's). Altering any of this even slightly can dramatically change how the effect sounds.

What genre do you play? The house jocks I guess can utilise more effects whereas with trance you need to be very subtle when using them.

To answer your question (kinda) yes you can do different things on the DJM800 to the EFX1000 & vice versa.

I camcordered my last mixset with the idea of uploading it to YouTube for people in the same position I was with no one to ask, to help show how to use things like FX etc. Still not sure whether to upload it, I'm no expert DJ or anything & will probably get slaughtered over how I do things . Feck it, I might try & up it later on.

If you seach YouTube there's some decent DJM800 vids (a Spanish one is very good).

I use a DJM909 & I've never used a DJM800 but if you're really stuck with FX feel free to ask & if I can help I will m8. In the meantime, experiment & enjoy. It'll start to click into place eventually

Trance Android - get that vid up on YouTube - I really enjoy seeing other people's styles.

would be very much appreciated.....

Cheers

Jarv

Jarvmeister - had a few messages from people (inc Scolomon) asking about posting my vid on YouTube. Problem is the 10 minute maximum film length I've started splitting it but I reckon it'll look a bit shit split into 7 or 8 segments.

You can get director status on YouTube (no limit on the length of the vids) but not sure how long it takes to get approved & it looks like it's for professional film makers etc. I'm just a numpty who wants to show a few basics to people with no one to ask, coz I know it feels in them shoes

If you have any ideas or dealings with the YouTube director status please let me know & in the meantime I'll keep ya posted if I get it upped

PS Wasn't sure what anyone would make of it - I suppose it'll either be really interesting to watch ...or coma inducingly tedious

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Originally posted by Trance Android Jarvmeister - had a few messages from people (inc Scolomon) asking about posting my vid on YouTube. Problem is the 10 minute maximum film length I've started splitting it but I reckon it'll look a bit shit split into 7 or 8 segments. You can get director status on YouTube (no limit on the length of the vids) but not sure how long it takes to get approved & it looks like it's for professional film makers etc. I'm just a numpty who wants to show a few basics to people with no one to ask, coz I know it feels in them shoes If you have any ideas or dealings with the YouTube director status please let me know & in the meantime I'll keep ya posted if I get it upped PS Wasn't sure what anyone would make of it - I suppose it'll either be really interesting to watch ...or coma inducingly tedious

can you upload it on yousendit.com or megaupload?

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Originally posted by Scolomon can you upload it on yousendit.com or megaupload?

I could try ...but it's a 70 minute mpeg

From a comparison point of view...

The main difference is you've got a hell of a lot more control with an EFX1000.

On a DJM800, each of the fx only has two parameters - time (e.g. delay time, flanger cycle period) and depth (usually wet/dry - how much the effect is applied to the sound)

However with the EFX1000 you have 4 parameters for each effect - time, mix (same as 'depth' on DJM800 in most cases), depth (e.g. resonance for a filter effect, feedback amount for an echo effect etc) and character (an extra parameter which varies for each effect).

With these extra parameters, you can do so much more with the effect and you can take it from sounding like an obvious effect where you've just hit the big orange button to making it sound like part of the music. You can also apply the effect to just the bass, mid-range or highs of the sound.

The other thing about the EFX1000 is you've got both beat fx and what they call "jog break" fx... this essentially means with an effect like the filter, you've got a filter effect that automatically filters up and down in time to the music and you've got the 'wah' effect, which is a manual filter you can filter up/down. Same goes for the flanger - 'flanger' is a beat-synced flanger and 'jet' is a manual flanger.

And then you've got the other big thing about the EFX1000 in that you can apply more than one effect at once... on the DJM800 you can apply the filter/bitcrush/harmonic etc fx at the same time as a beat effect, but you couldn't apply both a flanger and echo at the same time, for example.

The controls on the EFX1000 are much easier to use as it's a whole unit devoted to fx.

Plus, and this is quite an important one, if you've got an EFX1000, you can take it with you to any gig and you'll then know, no matter what setup they've got, you'll have the fx you're used to. If you practice at home on a DJM800, you might turn up and find a mixer with the same fx, different fx or you could well find one with none at all - throwing anything you've learnt on those fx out of the window.

The DJM800 has certain fx the EFX1000 doesn't have - reverb, chorus reverse echo, roll (instant loop) & reverse roll... although you can recreate the "roll" effect using the echo effect on the EFX1000 with the depth & character parameters set appropriately... very useful.

Also, the EFX1000 has fx the DJM800 doesn't - ring modulator, humaniser, vocoder & pitch echo.

Hope this helps

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it does thanks,

i find the effects i have been using the most are the reverb w/ bitcrusher to make a overpowering swooshing sound and i put it on echo with the 3/4 delay and use filter sweep or bitcrush to really pump up the song before i want to lay in there with a huge bang. i really need to work on using roll though, that can prob be pretty useful if i can use it correctly

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