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Originally posted by Dj_Kile I'm in the market for new mixer , previously i owned vestax pmc-55 and now looking for a replacement ... my budget allows me one of the above , i can't get other mixers around here , no ecler, numark or mackie ... just denon pioneer and vestax i searched the web not much on the pmc280 ... this is what i know : 1. djm400 lacks proper outputs for club setup 2. pmc 280 doesn't qualify as scrach mixer (limited crossfader tuning) what i'm looking for : 1. best sound quality and minimum background noise 2. quality up-faders 3. good fx 4. good eq I'm Trance Dj , and will record my demos using this setup thanks for your help...

You seriously want to replace the PMC-55?

As a die hard PMC-55 user (I merely worship at it's shrine) you are going to be seriously disappointed with any mixer you decide to step down to.

DJM 400 is crap. Low sound quality, lack of multiple outs (or even balanced for that matter) and it's one of the most expensive 2ch mixers out there.

The PMC280 is waaaaay better in terms of sound quality than the 400, but still a step down from the 55. It's a good mixer and well worth the money. Built like a tank too but not great for scratching.

The only brands worth looking at if sound quality is the primary criteria are Allen and Heath, Rane and Ecler. Pioneer IMO are not worth the coin - they aren't particularly clean but I suppose if must have those cheesy effects then they are popular.

Why not just get a an EFX? Your PMC-55 has individual send and returns on each channel (that are also switchable between pre an post).

Unless you've beaten the utter shit out of it or just want to use something else now, you're going to have a very hard time replacing it. Bear in mind you're trying to replace a $1500 mixer with a $400 alternative.

DJM-400 is not bad imo. Sure it's not top shelf, but still a decent quality 2 channel mixer compared to others on the market.

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i know that pmc55 beat them both ... and i took good care of it and it's in good shape ... it's just that i want to change ... i'm going for 2 denon 5500 and want something to go along with ( i had denon 3500) ... also i want the fx ... i thought of buying efx500 but it costs as much as the pmc280 ... i might keep the pmc55 , but i do want new mixer ...

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Originally posted by Teezdalien DJM-400 is not bad imo. Sure it's not top shelf, but still a decent quality 2 channel mixer compared to others on the market.

Exactly what I was gonna say. Besides the lack of balanced outputs, it's been a complete workhorse for me since it was released back in '06. No problems whatsoever. The effects are indistinguishable from EFX units, except of course for the fact that you can't edit and tweak them nearly as much.

I'd recommend it.

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Dude, sell me your 55. PM me.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Exactly what I was gonna say. Besides the lack of balanced outputs, it's been a complete workhorse for me since it was released back in '06. No problems whatsoever. The effects are indistinguishable from EFX units, except of course for the fact that you can't edit and tweak them nearly as much. I'd recommend it.

Each to their own but I wouldn't. It's $550+ new for a 2 channel mixer without good connectivity (ins/outs) - I would expect a hell of lot more for a mixer costing that much.

Nearly any other mixer in that price bracket will have more channels, a better sound to noise ratio, more master/sub outputs. Bu then again some people love the fx on the pioneers and I don't and that's probably a big reason I think their stuff is over priced and overrated.

A new EFX goes for $399, probably $250 - $300 second hand.

i absolutely love my pmc280. the sound is awesome,, its built really well...the only problem is that if you plan on using it in a club or in a dark setting, bring a light because the knobs are impossible to see in the dark. i had to have my cell phone laying across the top of the mixer just to see where my levels were. thats my only complaint, otherwise its by far the best mixer for the price w/ 4 channels and fx and great sound quality.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Each to their own but I wouldn't. It's $550+ new for a 2 channel mixer without good connectivity (ins/outs) - I would expect a hell of lot more for a mixer costing that much. Nearly any other mixer in that price bracket will have more channels, a better sound to noise ratio, more master/sub outputs. Bu then again some people love the fx on the pioneers and I don't and that's probably a big reason I think their stuff is over priced and overrated. A new EFX goes for $399, probably $250 - $300 second hand.

I got mine for 450 from AGI here in the states about 2 years ago. 550 is just the MAP but you'd be nuts to pay that much for it.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman I got mine for 450 from AGI here in the states about 2 years ago. 550 is just the MAP but you'd be nuts to pay that much for it.

That's a good deal - I suppose if it's $450, then you're getting an FX unit and a 2ch mixer, which is good.....but you can pick up the Vestax PMC 280 for $350 new, which is 4ch, more fx, better build and sound quality with more connectivity.

I just feel like with pioneer, you're paying so much for their marketing and brand name.

Don't get me wrong, I think their CDJ's are one of the best designed and functioning pieces of equipment out there, and the EFX units were a real break through, but their mixers just seem overpriced and IME, not that great quality.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN That's a good deal - I suppose if it's $450, then you're getting an FX unit and a 2ch mixer, which is good.....but you can pick up the Vestax PMC 280 for $350 new, which is 4ch, more fx, better build and sound quality with more connectivity. I just feel like with pioneer, you're paying so much for their marketing and brand name. Don't get me wrong, I think their CDJ's are one of the best designed and functioning pieces of equipment out there, and the EFX units were a real break through, but their mixers just seem overpriced and IME, not that great quality.

It's cool man, I respect that. I've never played on a Vestax myself but I have to reason to doubt you.

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btw , if any one interested , my vestax for sale on ebay ...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vestax-PMC-55...parms=72%3A1431|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318