well over time you will learn to differentiat between everything and you will have no problem counting the beat. Usually, from my experiences in the beginning of a track you will be able to distinctly hear the bass, and then it will usually add a high hat or snare drum, but like I said after practice...practice practice practice and you will be able to count the beats with no problems. Hopefully this helped, as I'm very tired right now, just got done workin an 80 hour week, so if it doesn't make sense to you let me know and I will see what I can do.

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After much practice you kind of get a feel for it and do it subconsciously without really thinking.

mkay...the build up...then goes a bunch of beats, I count out 4 times by 4 beats, right? Is that the right time?

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Originally posted by Prodigy mkay...the build up...then goes a bunch of beats, I count out 4 times by 4 beats, right? Is that the right time?

Usually it's 4 times 8 beats before "something happens"

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now as I understand its....

beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - tssss (half a bar)
beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - tssss (full bar)

full bar = 4 beats...

but I have a problem picking out the beats.....is it just a matter of training my ears? or am i incompetent?! (hehe i know thats not the case)....what can i do? lemme guess practice practice practice?!?!

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i could beatmatch rightaway when i got my dex, but thats coz i`m into producing for about an year and i know how traxx are built.. so..

the beatmatching wasn`t perfect @ 1st but i`m still learning

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Originally posted by Abbas now as I understand its.... beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - tssss (half a bar) beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - tssss (full bar) full bar = 4 beats... but I have a problem picking out the beats.....is it just a matter of training my ears? or am i incompetent?! (hehe i know thats not the case)....what can i do? lemme guess practice practice practice?!?!

actually it goes like this

beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - beat - tssss (half a bar)
beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - beat - tssss (full bar)

well, you got it! practice practice practice!

oh, and don't forget, PRACTICE!

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on alot of tracks, it's easier to find repeating things in the melody rather than the bassline to count the bars with... especially if you notice something that repeats every 4 beats (which can almost always be found)

It'll come to you in time! It's kinda weird... you can try all you want to count in your mind, but it'll never work (well, it didnt for me) - after you try for long enough, you'll find yourself counting bars without even thinking about it... the subconscious is a wonderful thing

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Originally posted by Sinonick actually it goes like this beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - beat - tssss (half a bar) beat - tsss - beat w/ snare drum - beat - tssss (full bar) well, you got it! practice practice practice! oh, and don't forget, PRACTICE!

i dont quite hear the beat w/ snare drum - beat - tssss.....i'll try harder next time

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Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2 on alot of tracks, it's easier to find repeating things in the melody rather than the bassline to count the bars with... especially if you notice something that repeats every 4 beats (which can almost always be found) It'll come to you in time! It's kinda weird... you can try all you want to count in your mind, but it'll never work (well, it didnt for me) - after you try for long enough, you'll find yourself counting bars without even thinking about it... the subconscious is a wonderful thing -mer

i need more explanation on this concept, i dont think i quite get it!?

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