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bilange
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Victoriaville, Quebec, Canada
Hello! Vinyl handling/playing

Heres a bunch of question that absolute vinyl newbies (IE: Never handled vinyls/turntable since they was born) may ask..

Btw I picked up most of those questions by listening one of my friend saying stuff like "Someone told me that [some fact about vinyl]" etc, but I dont find him credible - so I guess some of you may clarify/answer/correct those questions

1. After something like 10 playback, sound quality on a vinyl decreases (and we can hear that)

2. Putting some weight on the needle will damage the record (By 'some', i mean: More than needed for normal playback)


Can't think of any others :/ I will probably find others when that friend gets up


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mantisnl
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: holland

bullshit


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auujay
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Cleveland
Re: Vinyl handling/playing

quote:
Originally posted by bilange
1. After something like 10 playback, sound quality on a vinyl decreases (and we can hear that)

2. Putting some weight on the needle will damage the record (By 'some', i mean: More than needed for normal playback)


1. Real horseshit. Vinyl would not have become a popular medium (before DJing) if you could only hear your toons 10 times before they sound bad. However vinyl will wear down, and the higher the tracking weight (the weight of the needle, which is adjustable on good turntables) the faster the needle and record will wear down. Obviously scratching and such will wear down a record faster but that is the price you pay

2. I guess I already talked about that above but I guess this is true but damage is a relative term, to truly make it sound like shit you have to combine 1 and 2. Meaning add lots of weight and play it a lot.

There are other big vinyl wear issues, like dust/static. In my mind as a normal trance DJ who does not scratch this is the main reason my records start sounding worn. The needle in the groove and the record on the slipmat make a lot of static which cause dust to get on the record and IN THE GROOVE. This dust is most of the poping and hissing sound you hear with older records. But if you clean your records and keep them in a pretty dust free place they will last a long time.

Also, records will bend if they get too hot/have lots of weight on them. So store them in a cool place on there edges (not stacked like pancakes).


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deejay2002
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: NJ
Re: Re: Vinyl handling/playing

quote:
Originally posted by auujay
There are other big vinyl wear issues, like dust/static. In my mind as a normal trance DJ who does not scratch this is the main reason my records start sounding worn. The needle in the groove and the record on the slipmat make a lot of static which cause dust to get on the record and IN THE GROOVE. This dust is most of the poping and hissing sound you hear with older records. But if you clean your records and keep them in a pretty dust free place they will last a long time.
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Yep, I would have to agree with you on this one. I have Ron H. & Pascal M's On stream, and I have been playing that record literally over hundreds of times, and they still sound fine. Make sure you could get ROZOIL GRUV-GLIDE ANTI-STATIC RECORD CLEANER!

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bilange
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Victoriaville, Quebec, Canada
Re: Re: Vinyl handling/playing

quote:
Originally posted by auujay
1. Real horseshit. Vinyl would not have become a popular medium (before DJing) if you could only hear your toons 10 times before they sound bad.


Thats what I thought - I noticed that some Tiesto records seemed to be a bit used when he came last December at Quebec City..

I got another dumb question about records.. A few people (2 in fact) told me that 6-month old and older records (related to its release date) are harder to find - It sounds true to a certain level, but what about floorfillers, are they as rare as ordinary songs?

For example, I checked another thead where people posted online record stores, and checked for flutlicht's remix of marc dawn - expander (which is at least one year old, isnt it?)... and more than half stores have it (Some were B.O., though).


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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

they press a load of copies
they sell the copies
if there is more of a demand, they'll do a re-press and release more copies

a few labels lately have been doing a bunch of re-presses for older tracks


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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Vancouver, BC

if you look hard enough you can still find a lot of good old tunes brand new from a few select places. i just recently picked up free radical - surreal (atcr) brand new for 5.50 GBP shipped while others on ebay are shelling out 30+ GBP for a used one.


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Arsalan
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Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by mantisnl
bullshit

agreed ;d


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