yeah dude. where have you been?

its bollocks.

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lol what a scam!

Not this again

PRIOR TO THIS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ILLEGAL TO DJ FROM A COMPUTER IN A LICENSED VENUE!

This law isn't screwing people over, it's allowing them to do it... but shite you've gotta pay however many hundred pounds and the whole system they're using's a bit poor I think, but imo it's better than it being illegal to play off laptop, as was the case before.

Oh and on the subject of playing digi-downloads burnt to CD in clubs, which always seems to come up with this, most digital download sites have an agreement with the labels making it legal to make one CD copy of the track (thus making it legal to play it out) - if in doubt, read the download site's T&Cs.

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I saw something recently about the UK license that said a DJ was allowed only to mix in the first and last 3 seconds of the track!

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Not this again PRIOR TO THIS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ILLEGAL TO DJ FROM A COMPUTER IN A LICENSED VENUE! This law isn't screwing people over, it's allowing them to do it... but shite you've gotta pay however many hundred pounds and the whole system they're using's a bit poor I think, but imo it's better than it being illegal to play off laptop, as was the case before.

yeah, but theyve also put restrictions on you as well, such as not being allowed to play your own edits of a track (without permission), which i think is total bullshit.

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Originally posted by Stu Cox Oh and on the subject of playing digi-downloads burnt to CD in clubs, which always seems to come up with this, most digital download sites have an agreement with the labels making it legal to make one CD copy of the track (thus making it legal to play it out) - if in doubt, read the download site's T&Cs.

except of course that theyre also gonna charge you 200 pounds a year for the privilege. so you fork out for your track and then you have to fork out another 200 for the right to play it. this is also total bullshit.

i think reforms that garner more money for the artists that create the music we play is a good thing, except when it starts to punish the people that are responsible for buying that music to begin with.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN except of course that theyre also gonna charge you 200 pounds a year for the privilege. so you fork out for your track and then you have to fork out another 200 for the right to play it. this is also total bullshit.

And the club also pays a license for the music to be played.

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most of this shit they make up is to just to keep themselves in a job, for f$#$ sake that is all it is these days they take things to far.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN except of course that theyre also gonna charge you 200 pounds a year for the privilege. so you fork out for your track and then you have to fork out another 200 for the right to play it. this is also total bullshit.

no you don't, if your playing your downloaded tracks from cd its totally legal without having to have one of the licences because the place you downloaded it from have agreements with the labels already, giving you permission to burn those tracks so as long as the venue you're playing in has a PRS licence everything is fine.

You only need one of these licences if you're going to be playing the files from computer

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Originally posted by djdk no you don't, if your playing your downloaded tracks from cd its totally legal without having to have one of the licences because the place you downloaded it from have agreements with the labels already, giving you permission to burn those tracks so as long as the venue you're playing in has a PRS licence everything is fine. You only need one of these licences if you're going to be playing the files from computer

how does that work, coz you don't download it to CD, you download it to a computer, then burn it.

I think I might start up a licence that people need to buy that allows them to listen to music. Different levels...
On the bus $12 / year
In the suppermarket $7.50 / year
In a club $49 / year
At the footy $25 / year (does not include crowd chants in UK - an extra $15)
http://listentomusicsucker.com

Think it will work??

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Originally posted by djdk no you don't, if your playing your downloaded tracks from cd its totally legal without having to have one of the licences because the place you downloaded it from have agreements with the labels already, giving you permission to burn those tracks so as long as the venue you're playing in has a PRS licence everything is fine. You only need one of these licences if you're going to be playing the files from computer

im hardly an authority on the subject, and i cant find the thread freak started last year when the changes were being discussed. my understanding of that document he posted was that if youre a dj playing CDs or mp3s, you had to pay a yearly fee of 200 pounds for the right to play your *already purchased & legally downloaded material.*

i dont think i misunderstood the discussion so we'll agree to disagree til perhaps freak could enlighten us.

edit: oooh! found it.

link

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Payment terms (8) Each registered DJ must pay a licence fee of �200 annually and in advance. The fee will be subject to adjustment each year to take account of inflation.

sounds pretty cut & dried to me.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN im hardly an authority on the subject, and i cant find the thread freak started last year when the changes were being discussed. my understanding of that document he posted was that if youre a dj playing CDs or mp3s, you had to pay a yearly fee of 200 pounds for the right to play your *already purchased & legally downloaded material.* i dont think i misunderstood the discussion so we'll agree to disagree til perhaps freak could enlighten us.

That is exactly the impression I got from that previous thread too.

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