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BJeT
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Melbourne
Headfones

*** ok so I cut the comments below from an earlier thread about equipment and had a question about headfones (HF). on the computer i use at the university i use a pair of Sony MDR-CD170 to listen to choonz so that i don't piss the other ppl off in the room. i've had them for at least 5yrs.

i am gunna pick up myself a pair of deks and other other equipment to start spinnin' in about a year and was wondering if other ppl around here thought if these HF i have at the moment would be ok to use 4 djing ?

Cheers
BJeT

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Have you got headphones? If not I would reccommend the Sony MDR-7506 for £139 from htfr, or if this is too much then the Technics RPDJ-1200 for £99. Another excellent set of headphones is the Sony MDR-V6, which cost about $80 in the states, but are very hard to get hold of here. Stay clear of the Sony MDR-V700DJ at all costs!

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Gluegun
Headphone Addict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

*looks at your sig*

Well, it seems you know enough about what is *good*, heheh. Now, the question is, "is what you have good enough"? Uh, to start out with, they might be, but try and upgrade soon. The CD170's aren't known for having much any redeeming qualities! Heck, even the Philips HP550's would be better headphones than those! (Those are cheap, supraural, good sounding, flashy closed headphones--that slaughter most of the sony lines in sound quality! They only isolate a little, however.) Any ways, you might not know that the MDR-V6 = MDR-7506. They are the same headphones, heheh. Also, be sure to get the velour replacement pads for the DT250 headphones Beyerdynamic, and put them on the V6's, if you get them.

Heck, I think that, where you are, teh V6's/7506's might be so overpriced, that you might as well go with the cans one step up!! What I am talking about don't fold in any way, but they are great for DJing if you dont need something to fold. They are the Beyerdynamic DT250. Beyerdynamic makes two models of this, one is 80 ohms for equipment with no power, and one is a more expensive, better sounding, 250 ohms version that, if you can get past the fact that they don't fold, are what I would consider the best DJ headphones on the planet. Remember! Even the V6's outclass Sennheiser's best offering, the HD25 (except for the fact that the hd25's fold *every* way, and some NEED that feature. These are supposedly the "best DJ headphones in the world." Pfeh...only if you need the side folding), and the DT250-80's outclass the V6's, and the DT250-250's outclass the DT250-80's...so....

Also, I have heard *incredibly* mixed reviews on the headphones that Sennheiser is now trying to advertise for DJ's, a set of theirs that blocks out an *ungodly* amount of outside sound, the Sennheiser HD280 Pro.

any ways, here are some threads for getting the V6 in australia.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=2978

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=3097

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...s=&threadid=629

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...s=&threadid=307

Here is some MDR-CD170 info. Granted, there isn't much, but here you go:

http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=1925

http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=2165

Old Post Dec-28-2001 22:15  United States
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DJTJ
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bournemouth, UK when I'm at home, Cardiff, UK when I'm at uni
Re: Headfones

quote:
Originally posted by BJeT
Have you got headphones? If not I would reccommend the Sony MDR-7506 for £139 from htfr, or if this is too much then the Technics RPDJ-1200 for £99. Another excellent set of headphones is the Sony MDR-V6, which cost about $80 in the states, but are very hard to get hold of here. Stay clear of the Sony MDR-V700DJ at all costs!

*Looks puzzled for a moment...*

*Then realises*

Hey! That was my post!

If you're after headphones, listen to the man Gluegun. He knows what he's talking about.

Old Post Dec-28-2001 23:37  England
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Gluegun
Headphone Addict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

Hey man, I've been reading this...there's one thing that isn't accurate here:

http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/user-bin/T.J...ge=DJ+Equipment

The MDR-7506's have the exact same cups as the others. Same paint job, too (I found that out after believing otherwise, heh. whoopsie.) Any ways, the only difference is the plug, which is gold plated instead of not, and the decal on it (says mdr-7506 instead of mdr-v6), the fact that they come with a parts sheet, and their cost. By the way, you might want to mention the Beyerdynamic DT250 pads... and, hell, depending on how strong your mixer's headphone jack is, you might wanna try the DT250-80's or the DT250-250's.

Old Post Dec-29-2001 05:41  United States
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DJTJ
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Bournemouth, UK when I'm at home, Cardiff, UK when I'm at uni

Hey, thanks for picking that up! I'll change that when I get time.

If you fancy adding to my site you could do a review for the DT250 if you want - what do you say?

Thanks man!

Old Post Dec-29-2001 13:26  England
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Gluegun
Headphone Addict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

No thanks, I'm not in a position to!

If you wanna upgrade, though...

Old Post Dec-29-2001 16:20  United States
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oDrori
howdy



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland

Hey, was wondering if U guys could comment mine? I have no idea how good are they...
I have a Sony MDR - CD380 brandnew and I bought em for 260 NIS which is, like, 65$ ....
First of all, was I ripped?
Second, is this good as the choice for my first ever DJing phones?


Thanx a lot!


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Old Post Dec-29-2001 22:14  Israel
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Gluegun
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

I did a search for "CD380" at head-fi and headwize, and here are some quotes i came up with...

"Just digging up this old thread...

Now I'm retracting my opinion that the MDR-CD#80 headphones are even okay. The mid-priced versions from the CD380 to the CD780 are boomy and closed-in sounding - and don't block out any outside noise, to boot! Gyah. Those Sony cans sound about the same as Sennheiser's 'crappy, overpriced' HD 500 - and worse than AKG's lowly K66! No wonder why people such as Gluegun and I REALLY hate those mid-level Sonys!!! "

"Joe, I took a 20 second listen to the CD380s when I had my Grados, and I thought they sounded good. Probably because I was so relieved to hear a darker sounding phone. This was on an anemic recording, though. After listening to my AKGs for so long, I went and listened to my friends Sony CD-380s and found them untolerably horrible. They had a closed, glob in front of your cranium soundstage, SEVERELY veiled highs and mids (asif you were listening behind a wall of bed mattresses), absolutely NO detail to speak of, and the most exaderated bass I had ever heard in my life. They wouldent fit on my head properly, so they were un comfortable, and they wouldent auto-ajust unless I pulled each side down manually."

"Gluegun, now I know why you said those so-called "closed-front/open-back" headphones combine the worst features of both open and closed headphones... Most of the mid-priced models of that Sony MDR-CD#80 series are boomy and closed-in and don't block any outside noise! Gyah. No wonder why you hate them! [Well, actually Sony just doesn't have enough experience in their design! Similarly designed models from AKG and Sennheiser are WAY better than those Sonys, as a whole! Even the lowly AKG K66 ($40) sounds better than any Sony MDR-CD#80 series headphones up to CD780 ($100)!]"

(Note from Gluegun: The AKG K66 isn't that great)

OOO! Some neat threads!

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...highlight=CD380

http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=1228

http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...fnum=1&tid=2505

Well, to summarize, no, you can't really use them for DJing. They are *way* too open. Some people at headwize felt they were mediocre for the price, actually worth buying, sometimes....

...And then the Philips HP550's came out (small, cheap, good sounding, supraural, closed, block out only a little sound, but more than the open MDR-CD380's! If you are considering the any of the currently produced CD### line of headphones, I strongly suggest you look at these Philips instead!), which squashed them like the bug they are.

Here's a relatively positive review of the CD380's...it even compares them to the V6...this is before the Philips, btw. Also, I would consider the Philips a only DJ headphones if you are *very* desperate...but at least they are better than the Sony's...

http://headwize.powerpill.org/ubb/s...5&fdays=&stime=

Old Post Dec-30-2001 00:06  United States
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oDrori
howdy



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Kibbutz Gaash, home of all the light in Holyland

Hya thanx a lot Glue!
This'll help me a lot to choose what to start with!
Only wish I would've found this site before I bought my MDRCD380...
I guess that's what you get when you buy at Tower Records... LMAO.

1 more thing, can U plz explain some terms to me?

- Open / Close
- 104 Efficiency
- OHM

P.S. Does sound like I got robbed at daylight ;(


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Old Post Dec-30-2001 01:05  Israel
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Gluegun
Headphone Addict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

Read this! It tells you all you need to know!

http://headwize.com/articles/hguide_art.htm

And anyone who wants to know the basics of headphone-ese would do well to read that, as well...

Old Post Dec-30-2001 01:17  United States
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Gluegun
Headphone Addict



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, Kentucky

Well....
You're in Israel... even with the MDR-V6's, you might be able to consider yourself robbed... the MDR-V6's and MDR-7506's are kinda hard to find there, and, if you do, they are probably expensive...

I already interested "Yuval" of these forums in finding the MDR-V6's, and he's in Israel...

uh...I don't know how successful he is. Last thing I remember on the subject is that I did a search for "Sony" and "Israel" on Google, and got a few phone numbers. I don't know what KIND of places/companies I found, but I don't think he's gotten back to me.. I don't even know if he called them. Anyways, he did post on head-fi asking for some help, and that kinda fizzled too...

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...=&threadid=4953

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TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN BUYING THESE HEADPHONES:

Here are a few places for the *US* that have them for cheap. Regardless of which country you are in, these places might be the cheapest way to buy them. I suggest you ask about shipping and relevant costs, if you are buying outside the US, and compare this cost to any other, more local way that you can get the MDR-V6 or MDR-7506. Also, some times, prices might be sooo inflated for the V6 that the cost difference between the V6 and the DT250-80 is only, like, $20. I think this is the case in Australia. If that's the case, screw the V6's--go for the DT250's!!

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/etronicsnet/sonmdrv6.html

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cyberdi...nmdstudmon.html

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/shopsun...headphones.html

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/hogwildstore/mdrv6.html

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skywarp
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Registered: Sep 2000
Location: Edmonton, AB

Hmm just something to consider ... people on head-fi and headwize are mostly audiophiles, right ? Audiophile headphones should be geared for best listening experience. For DJ headphones there is some other aspects that might be more important then optimal soundfield, depth, and such. Sometimes a headphone that doesn't sound that great but is reliable and robust would be a much better choice for the given situation. The V6, for example, would be a really bad choice for me because I like folding my headphones in several different ways depending on monitor position, overall sound levels and sound quality in the DJ booth, etc ... V700 fall off my head 'coz they're too heavy. I use the HD-25 because they go reasonably loud without distorting, they clamp around my head (literally ... I wear the headband behind my neck sometimes and they still stay on). Also,they are robust - I can confirm this after dropping them several times and having them stepped on, and also yanking the cord on countless occassions.

Another thing about sound quality ... I seriously doubt that in the head of a DJ set and at insane volumes you'd really be able to appreciate the sound quality of a given headphone. If it enables to line up two records properly then they're good enough.


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