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everett
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Idea Get Advice Here

This sort of thread (rating my first mix) normally belongs in the DJ Promotion forum, but this thread has got some good info on how to put together your first demo mix, so please either grab some tips or leave some pointers.

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Hey everyone, this is my first demo and I have the opportunity to spin at a club and see how I do for the first time. Please let me know if this is good enough to give to a club promoter or if it needs to be redone. I'm a total n00b


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1. DALITE - SUNDAY (Original Mix)
2. Kaiser Souzai - Gaia (Kaiser Souzai Remix)
3. Cara Dillon vs 2Devine - Black is the Colour (Coco & Green Mix)
4. The Freaks - The Creeps (Vandalism Mix)
5. BK - Systematic (Yuri & Leonid (2Special) House Remix)
6. Electrixx - Rock N Roll (Original Mix)

Its only 30 minutes long.

I posted something similar to this but got no response, I really need feedback so I thought I would try in this forum.

Last edited by Allied Nations on Jan-26-2007 at 02:27

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SPAWNmaster
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Registered: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, USA

ill let you know how it is when you post it in the DJ Promotion forum. also its helpful to rate and criticise others' mixes in order to get feedback for yourself...


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ThatsMagic
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Australia

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i got that

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everett
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Saint Louis, MO

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ill let you know how it is when you post it in the DJ Promotion forum. also its helpful to rate and criticise others' mixes in order to get feedback for yourself...


Its there. Title is "First Demo". Im pretty new to the forum so thanks for letting me know the etiquette.

Cheers

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nrjizer
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Registered: Jan 2001
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6 Tracks/30 minutes is not a good demo. It needs to be AT LEAST twice that long. Period.

If you aren't capable of making an hour long CD at home, then there's no way you're ready to spin at a club.


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everett
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Saint Louis, MO

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
6 Tracks/30 minutes is not a good demo. It needs to be AT LEAST twice that long. Period.

If you aren't capable of making an hour long CD at home, then there's no way you're ready to spin at a club.


Well the people I talked to suggested 30-45 because the promoters don't want to hear a 1+ hour set. They just want to hear mixing ability and general track selection. I can spin for 2 hours pretty easily if I need to

Have you submitted demo's and gotten gigs? Im really not trying to be condesending, I just don't how to say it

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

as a former promoter

i want at least an hour with 10-12 tracks or however many you feel you want to put in there without making it too crowded or loose for that matter

it shows you can string together an hour of tunes coherently and fluently

and for the love of god track it

non-tracked cds get tossed without a second thought


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Brighton

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
6 Tracks/30 minutes is not a good demo. It needs to be AT LEAST twice that long. Period.

If you aren't capable of making an hour long CD at home, then there's no way you're ready to spin at a club.


I little harsh perhaps and I'm not sure I would agree

Ironically the best place to learn to DJ is in the club, you learn much more when spinning in a club then you do at home assuming that the basics are reasonable.

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everett
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Registered: Sep 2006
Location: Saint Louis, MO

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
as a former promoter

i want at least an hour with 10-12 tracks or however many you feel you want to put in there without making it too crowded or loose for that matter

it shows you can string together an hour of tunes coherently and fluently

and for the love of god track it

non-tracked cds get tossed without a second thought


I tracked the CD i burned where the mixing starts.


Thanks for the input, I'll put something a little longer together today.

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Allied Nations
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: MTHELL

quote:
Originally posted by nrjizer
6 Tracks/30 minutes is not a good demo. It needs to be AT LEAST twice that long. Period.



Exactly. Wait til your established in your town before you start handing out 30 min promos.


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Nemesis44
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Registered: Aug 2003
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I'm still not convinced that I agree with the longer demo concept.

Basically, the key to getting work is getting to know people (We all agree on that). After that, what you give them is secondary as half the time people wont listen to it anyway. Getting to know peoople I would say is about 70% of the job, demo is the remaining at best. I never new anyone that got a job just from an awesome demo if the guy with the position didn't like or know the face.

I still think 40 minutes is sufficient for a demo.

Back in the old school days of demo tapes the limit was 45 anyway and this worked for everyone. What was on the other side was totally irrelivant to most promoters.

It is fair to say though that you should still record yourself doing longer sets up to 2 hours as this is one of the problems a lot of guys coming out of the bedroom have, i.e. they peak too quikcly and can't deliver after that.

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Tony Morello
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quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
Basically, the key to getting work is getting to know people (We all agree on that). After that, what you give them is secondary as half the time people wont listen to it anyway. Getting to know peoople I would say is about 70% of the job, demo is the remaining at best. I never new anyone that got a job just from an awesome demo if the guy with the position didn't like or know the face.


+1

the demo is only a small part of what it takes to get you gigs

you have to be out and meet everybody, become friends with them

if anything, give your demo to them

it's the people who come through the door and buy drinks

without a crowd, as a dj, you're not much


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