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If some guy's getting payd to make presets, hell why wouldn't I use them

I think it's ok to use presets, especially for the "bread and butter" sounds that fill up a track. For leads it's nice to make something yourself as this is the recognisable part of a track. Same for basses sometimes.....and pads you sometimes have to make yourself as you may want something very specific that you'll just have to damn make yourself (my experience)

Tho in my book ripping entire loops is a no-no!


all my humble opinions of course

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I don't have any problem using presets ;-)

Actually, I normally modify the sounds I'm using just a little as they rarely fit into the track exactly how I want straight away. If I've got plenty of time to fiddle I'll build sounds from scratch. And I never use drum loops, always try to build them myself.

Just the way I do things...

im not using presets, they just dont sound the way i want, in most cases if i really found an awesome preset and want to use it badly im modifying it for my needs, and making em simpler or more complex to save space...

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I prefer to tweak presets to obtain my sounds. My philosophy is that I am not Rob Papen, yet, but at the same time, I want to be able to call a sound at least partly my own so the song will feel more like my own. After I read a couple of books on synthesis I might do everything from a completely blank slate, but until then it is completely ethical and recommended that producers tweak presets. There is a crude American phrase "Fuc*ed up beyond all recognition". I guess my play on words with this phrase would be "Tweak it beyond all recognition", that's my 2 cents.

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A cool thing to do is to use a preset for something it wasn't meant to be used for.

For example, take a cheesey synth brass patch and use it as a fuzzy bass instead.

I think it's perfectly okey to use presets in a song...as long as it fits in the song...I mean not using them must be like buying a bag of candy and then not eating all the pieces

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Originally posted by davedresden i suggest getting the gabriel & dresden prog-a-minute. in 3 easy steps you too could change the face of dance music. batteries not included. - dave

i used to just try and find the right sound, but after you really start to understand how to manipulate stuff so that you can get the sounds that YOU want...its a lot better. i'm all about making my own sounds now, its sooo much better then surfing to find samples or tweaking a preset and something unexpected happens because you don't know what it took to make that sound.

I use a lot of presets but adjust them heavily, nothing wrong with that. I'm capable of building own sounds, but sometimes it's just not neccessary to invent the wheel twice.

Those original one shot effects and sounds I usually build from scratch, fun to do and if you just start tweaking you'll never know what you end with

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