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JayD
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Talking Harmonic Mixing Technique...

I hear about these mixes al the time and I hear that if the dj does it right, it sounds great... I was wondering if any-1 knows any mixes that I could get off the net with this style so I could take a listen, pleease let me know.. Thanks much


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TraNceFaN
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Judge @ Qontact 2001

May be Judge Jules @ Qontact 2001.
Very well mixed...and I think Johan Gielen @ TE 2001 or Picotto @ TE 2001.
Hopefully this helps.

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djdawn
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HuH??? Picotto - Harmonic Mixing? I don't think sooo...(same for Jules)
There have to be melodies in the songs in order to do harmonic mixing. I mean Picotto is great, but that's not what JayD was looking for. Your supposed to find out the keys of your records and then mix them according to the harmonic overlay chart. This is way beyond what most deejays do, believe me, I know many.
I mean just think about the situation: Your playing LIVE, maybe you know that the record you're playing is in Eb key. But wait, you're playing at +4 percent, now what does that make the key? +6% would be one halfstep up, but +4%? Oh well now I have to find a record that's Bb key (the perfect fifth) and hopefully it has the same bpm, because if I make it more than or less than +4%, it won't be the right key anymore....and I only have a minute or so for beatmatching...oh well
SEE how HARD this is ???
I can imagine someone doing this for a Mix CD, but doing this live is almost impossible. Maybe for one transition out of a whole set, but that's it. Sometimes you will get "correct" harmonic mixes by chance and a good ear, but not on purpose.

Well JayD, for more info go to djprince.net or harmonic-mixing.com
thanks to skywarp for the first link. I just dicovered these myself and didn't have the time to read them, but I will. This is CRAZY shit, but I believe it can make the nicest transitions, if done properly.



just had another listen to Jules @ qontact...transition from airwave to madonna is definitely out of key.

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skywarp
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Look out for mixes by DJ Rapture ... I think he has a website but I don't remember the addy ... try www.djrapture.com or something along those lines. His mixing is truly mindblowing ... the whole set just flows like one entity and it is impossible to tell where he starts his mixes - and trust me, I can take a mix apart (lol).

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Yeah, I can see it being done for mix CD's, that are going to get listened too over and over again, and can be computer edited and spliced together if the DJ fluffs it up, but to do it live would require meticulous planning, above god-like skill and plenty of good luck!

If you've ever heard digitally mixed CDs a lot of these are timestretched and pitch shifted rather than just pitched, so the tracks are all in key.


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O.k., true it would be hard live.. Although does any-1 know some cd's where I can hear this mixing technique??? By the way the Dj Rapture link doesnt work...


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