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Originally posted by Vlad Do we really need auto BPM counters and all the sampling gadgets?? There are so many mixers like that out there.. and I was curious if they are real necessities in mixing? Anyone have a particular mixer to suggest to look at?? I was thinking the DJM-500 or 600..

Sampling gadgets could be funny to use but aren't a necessities and auto BPM counters aren't absolutely a necessities...

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None of those things are really absolutely needed. You can beatmatch, transition and play with frequency settings on just about any mixer. I have a pretty basic mixer myself.

I think the features I wish I would have gotten most with my mixer are:

- Frequency kill buttons. It doesn't sound very smooth to twist the rotary nob yourself.

- Effects. I find that there is very little 'jazz' I can add to my mixes. Tune A... transition to Tune B.... repeat. Yes, there are other things I could do, but nothing that really sounds amazing.

- Sampler. To most this may be really pointless. But I think at those key breakdowns and buildups, some stings and powerkills would be pretty neat to add to the energy.

A BPM counter is just plain nice to have. It just may be a mistake to follow your BPM counter like your life depended on it. BPM counters generally serve to get your 2 tunes in the 'ballpark' of each other, get the beats close to each other, then fine tune from there. Definately a luxury, but not a necessity.

You dont need any of these things I've listed, but all of them really can help you expand your talent as a DJ.

all you need in a mixer is headphone cueing
gain and 3 band eq
channel faders, but that's a given
and you can do without a crossfader, but it's always nice to have

i'm currently mixing using a mackie 12 channel mixer to mix
just recorded a cd off it, it's tighter than any other cd i've done so far
all it has are rotary level controls and 3 band eq, as well as a nice headphone cueing section

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All that stuff adds flavor to ur set....unless u want to have a ordinary set (unless u can do all those tricks w/ out the equipment) then all those effects and step are great to have but not needed

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Do any of the biggest dj's use a sampler or anything crazy like that during their sets? I know Judge Jules started using a 3rd or 4th CDJ during his sets but i'm not sure about the others. People like Oakenfold, Tiesto, AVB, PVD, etc. I'm not positive, but i'm guessing none of them do use anything more than turntables and mixers. Furthermore, I would conclude that if djs like that don't need samplers n such then they aren't needed. Although I guess they can cut their own vinyls in a studio n shit.

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Originally posted by djmorph Do any of the biggest dj's use a sampler or anything crazy like that during their sets? I know Judge Jules started using a 3rd or 4th CDJ during his sets but i'm not sure about the others. People like Oakenfold, Tiesto, AVB, PVD, etc. I'm not positive, but i'm guessing none of them do use anything more than turntables and mixers. Furthermore, I would conclude that if djs like that don't need samplers n such then they aren't needed. Although I guess they can cut their own vinyls in a studio n shit.

i seen in some videos where pvd uses effect boxes and such, check out his mayday video i think he plays around with one. i would think that they only play around with effect boxes, samplers and such at big events , i dont think they will bother with small events.

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even then, you have to know how to use an effector right or it just sounds like shit

if you want to spice up your sets then just learn how to do some cool tricks like cutting and things like that

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I know in one of oakie's videos he uses a vrm-10 and just destroys with the fx.

I really like that mixer, it's definately my choice of higher end mixers.

I say yes! The more gadgets a mixer has, the more creative you can be mixing your tunes! But, about the bpms... They suck, they all do!

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Originally posted by Push2005 Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

Man, a good quality mixer without effects is better than one with effects, imo. For example ... ummm, the Vestax PCV-275. Good mixer, but not the greatest in the world. Has everything you really need when DJ'ing (EQ, kills, I think it's got booth controls, 3 channels, etc). Most of all, it's got decent, to above average sound quality. Costs around $420 or so.

Now, look at the Korg Kaoss mixer. Has a built in Kaoss 2 pad in the thing (you don't get better with effects than a Kaoss Pad!), 2 channels and terrible audio quality. I've used the thing, and without a nice amp, ugh! I just didn't like the quality of the sound at all. I would rather get a barebones mixer, with 3-4 channels, and a standalone Kaoss Pad (or the Pioneer effects unit), instead of getting a mixer with everything built right in. Even the Pioneer DJM 500 and 600 lack the sound quality that the price tag demands. I'm not saying those are cruddy mixers, but for the price, I would expect better sound. That's just me though.

Personally, I've gone with a Rane Mojo 19" rack mixer. WOOOO, I love the thing. It's got great audio quality, a very nice cross fader, and overall, it makes my nipples hard . Down the road, I want to add a Kaoss Pad, but not right now. I'm spending too much learning how to make crazy sounds with my vinyl I think MusiciansFriend.com is still offering the Mojo for around $600. It's a steal if you ask me. Add another $300 for a Kaoss mixer, and you blow away the Pioneer 600 and you might even save some cash! EDIT - The mixer on MusicianFriends website is a blemished item. It's the Rane 8z Mojo mixer $599.00 and free delivery. Helluva deal if you ask me! They were going for $399.00 last week (and that's when I got mine), but they jacked the price up. Anyway, just more info that you probably don't want, hahahaha!!!!!

Hope that helps!
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Originally posted by loki Man, a good quality mixer without effects is better than one with effects, imo. For example ... ummm, the Vestax PCV-275. Good mixer, but not the greatest in the world. Has everything you really need when DJ'ing (EQ, kills, I think it's got booth controls, 3 channels, etc). Most of all, it's got decent, to above average sound quality. Costs around $420 or so. Now, look at the Korg Kaoss mixer. Has a built in Kaoss 2 pad in the thing (you don't get better with effects than a Kaoss Pad!), 2 channels and terrible audio quality. I've used the thing, and without a nice amp, ugh! I just didn't like the quality of the sound at all. I would rather get a barebones mixer, with 3-4 channels, and a standalone Kaoss Pad (or the Pioneer effects unit), instead of getting a mixer with everything built right in. Even the Pioneer DJM 500 and 600 lack the sound quality that the price tag demands. I'm not saying those are cruddy mixers, but for the price, I would expect better sound. That's just me though. Personally, I've gone with a Rane Mojo 19" rack mixer. WOOOO, I love the thing. It's got great audio quality, a very nice cross fader, and overall, it makes my nipples hard . Down the road, I want to add a Kaoss Pad, but not right now. I'm spending too much learning how to make crazy sounds with my vinyl I think MusiciansFriend.com is still offering the Mojo for around $600. It's a steal if you ask me. Add another $300 for a Kaoss mixer, and you blow away the Pioneer 600 and you might even save some cash! EDIT - The mixer on MusicianFriends website is a blemished item. It's the Rane 8z Mojo mixer $599.00 and free delivery. Helluva deal if you ask me! They were going for $399.00 last week (and that's when I got mine), but they jacked the price up. Anyway, just more info that you probably don't want, hahahaha!!!!! Hope that helps! Loki

Well I was looking between the Pioneer 500 and 600, and dont know which to get.. the main difference between the 2 that I know about is that the 600 comes with more affects. Thats just about all I know. Can someone give me alittle info on the two, and maybe suggest which one I should get.

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