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töbias
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Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime.

In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records.

But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?


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trance-ecj
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beatmatching isn't going away THAT soon...

However, it may come down to doing things live...completely reworking songs so that every set is fresh.

WHich can be good, since so many djs out there do the same thing...it'll come down to who's the better performer on the spot

but thats down the raod a bit


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Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:
Originally posted by töbias
Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

No.

Idiot.

Assuming you're referring to djing, I'll say the meaning will change, of course it wont go away. No matter how fool proof the technology is, theres always people who are better at using it than others.

Besides a better question would be if electronic dance music will still be a profitable genre in 5-10 years. Everything takes its turns, I wouldnt be surprised if EDM had become low profile by that time.

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...And EDM isn't low profile now?


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I believe EDM is at the bottom of the barrel for the most profitable genre of defined music.

Well then I'm not even going to bother arguing you...

But you're wrong.

EDIT: Ok, you edited your post, now I have to edit mine. My idea of low profile isnt an industry that is spread throughout the world, and contantly has a steady flow of new material, and new interest. Despite what you think there are alot of people involved in this music.

Low profile is when it stops being popular, yes thats right, I called EDM popular. And it starts getting to the point where its mainly old artists releasing new material, and its mainly old buyers buying that material.

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beatmatching isn't going away THAT soon...

And that's quite a shame


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EDM isnt low profile in Europe, 50,000 people at parties and stuff.

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Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:
Originally posted by töbias
For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime.

In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records.

But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?


Interesting question. I really don't know what to tell you. More and more producers are just that.. producers. You have people releasing excellent tracks that they tweak in the studio, but they really don't like to spin or to play to the crowds. This is all swell in my opinion, if you are a good producer and if you can produce.. do what you do. However, this makes the number of DJs decline. New guys start to look around and say, "Hell, I don't have to be a DJ to have a sick track out", and for the most part they are true. Back in the days most successful DJs were not into production, but almost every DJ now days is also a producer. So simply put, DJs are on decline while producers are on the rise. You got guys like BT, who I respect in every possible way, producing quality throughout the years.. but he refuses to spin. Well, he did spin for a period of time, but it was mediocre due to the fact that he was a producer first and DJ second.

I'm not a DJ so i can't tell you that i care much if this happens. Its true that its nice to go to a club and see your favorite DJ spin the records you like. However, as long as good tracks are produced and as long as there is a way of playing them and hearing them.. i really don't care much.

I do agree that DJs are essential for EDM, but EDM can do without DJs with extrordinary skills as long as we have good producers making beautiful tracks.

I'm very into hip-hop and people used to say that if DJs die, hip-hop dies due to the fact that early hip-hop was about the DJ first and em cee second. Well look how the time has changed. You got former DJs, Dr.Dre for example, stepping out of the spot light as a DJ and becoming dedicated to the production aspect of the genre. With this example the genre changed and its more em cee oriented and production oriented. Sure you have to have DJs in the club, but most of these DJs are nothing special and are there just to play the new jams. Basically this is the same thing that is happening to EDM imo.


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Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:
Originally posted by töbias
For many years being a quality Dj involved an element of difficulty because although you got primarily judged on your music selection it was assumed that you could beat match and makes mixes sublime.

In fact there aren't many Djs out there that have not sacrificed a great amount of living to master the art of spinning records.

But with the transformation of technology will anybody be able to Dj in future years?


Trance is already dead, you won't have to worry about it in 5-10 years


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quote:
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...And EDM isn't low profile now?


lol no
edm is very commercial especially trance


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töbias
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Re: Re: Will 'technical skill' be an obsolete term in 5 - 10 years?

quote:
Originally posted by mto
Interesting question. I really don't know what to tell you. More and more producers are just that.. producers. You have people releasing excellent tracks that they tweak in the studio, but they really don't like to spin or to play to the crowds. This is all swell in my opinion, if you are a good producer and if you can produce.. do what you do. However, this makes the number of DJs decline. New guys start to look around and say, "Hell, I don't have to be a DJ to have a sick track out", and for the most part they are true. Back in the days most successful DJs were not into production, but almost every DJ now days is also a producer. So simply put, DJs are on decline while producers are on the rise. You got guys like BT, who I respect in every possible way, producing quality throughout the years.. but he refuses to spin. Well, he did spin for a period of time, but it was mediocre due to the fact that he was a producer first and DJ second.

I'm not a DJ so i can't tell you that i care much if this happens. Its true that its nice to go to a club and see your favorite DJ spin the records you like. However, as long as good tracks are produced and as long as there is a way of playing them and hearing them.. i really don't care much.

I do agree that DJs are essential for EDM, but EDM can do without DJs with extrordinary skills as long as we have good producers making beautiful tracks.

I'm very into hip-hop and people used to say that if DJs die, hip-hop dies due to the fact that early hip-hop was about the DJ first and em cee second. Well look how the time has changed. You got former DJs, Dr.Dre for example, stepping out of the spot light as a DJ and becoming dedicated to the production aspect of the genre. With this example the genre changed and its more em cee oriented and production oriented. Sure you have to have DJs in the club, but most of these DJs are nothing special and are there just to play the new jams. Basically this is the same thing that is happening to EDM imo.


Very true, these days its rare to meet a Dj that spends heaps of time spinning that doesn't dip his or her finger into producing or at least whipping some re-mixes together.

Are you predicting an evolution where the top line edm artists will soley create music, and the playing of the music will be left to others?


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quote:
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...And EDM isn't low profile now?
+1

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