Very good question. I want to know that too.

But I think what many artists do is couple a kick with some kind of a snare. That makes the kick especially hard. If you listen to Rocco's remixes or productions, for instance, you'll probably hear kicks that are actually kick+snare combos. or maybe kick + another kind of kick.

Precisely what kind of kick or snare, I'm not sure.
We'll have to wait for input from other TAs on that, I guess...

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i belive they use two kicks, one for the lows and one for the highs, and the high one with a bit of reverb or a small delay... thats what i do anyway

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Originally posted by Vortex_SA i belive they use two kicks, one for the lows and one for the highs, and the high one with a bit of reverb or a small delay... thats what i do anyway

so how do they make it 'low' or 'high' - just by eq'ing?

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try layering up more samples, doesnt` have 2 be kicks only.
just play around and ull get something nice, it works with me so

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could we hear some samples and a step-by-step explanation of how to get there?

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well, every kick is different, so the way of building them is different aswell

just try 2 start with a basic, "low" kick for a base.
then try 2 find some percussion samples with some high "clicks" just as u hear in a lot of tracks
layer these 2, and start equalising a bit till it sounds right

i cant explain it better, coz its really a matter of playing around a bit the way i do it

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there is a cool kick tutorial on infected mushroom's web site
i never tried it but it was written by the one and only Erez Eizen so it has to be good

http://www.infected-mushroom.net/St...um_Tutorial.htm

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I can also recommend downloading Stomper for creation of kickdrums.

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/index2.html

I have also tried Waldorf Attack for kicks, and that works good as well. Like the others have said layering can be quite effective and along with precise eqing and compressing it can do wonders. I think that getting a suitable kick and a bassline that works along it are the two elements that often carry a track, so it's important to use some time to make it work.

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I consider a high pass filter one of the most important tools when creating layers for a kick.

for example, one pretty dull kick out of the box
http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~s216887/samples/307Kick03.wav

And then another nice (sampled?) kick which you filter some low out so it doesn't mess up the bass body of the other layer
http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~s216887/sampl...tLoop02_kik.wav

combined makes a kick a little less dull, with some mid range tick in it too
http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~s216887/samples/NewKick.wav

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i just steal kicks and add them to others with eq and compression, naughty or what

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Try using kicks from the sample cd "Trance and Techno by Dave Laurent". The kick drums on it are the hardest i've come across ever.