hum, if u cant take good sounds of them, so what u are needing now is not exactly how to operate them, but how to program synths in general.
Theres a thread here called "Synth Programing" or sumthing like that with a link to a site with a very good tutorial.
Learn what each property does to the sound and u will be able to get a sound in your head and "bactrack" it to know what originates it and how u can do it...

hello

you have an ABsynth tutorial here:
http://www.spinwarp.com/modules.php...rticle&artid=15

you have an FM7 tutorial here:
http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/fm/fm1.asp
(i steal havn't finished reading it)

and Pro-53...
welll, looking at the presets and playing with them is kinda enough here, cause this synth is not that complicated, analog with knobs.... filters and stuff.... no complicated menus and no routing map like in albino so just play with it

good luck , have fun and blablablba

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Originally posted by Flotser hello you have an ABsynth tutorial here: http://www.spinwarp.com/modules.php...rticle&artid=15 you have an FM7 tutorial here: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/tutorial/fm/fm1.asp (i steal havn't finished reading it) and Pro-53... welll, looking at the presets and playing with them is kinda enough here, cause this synth is not that complicated, analog with knobs.... filters and stuff.... no complicated menus and no routing map like in albino so just play with it good luck , have fun and blablablba

hey thanks flotser...thats what i was looking for...

I personally learn not by reading manuals and tutorials but just by tweaking knobs myself and hearing what that does.

All that scientific prose is too complicated for me, I just want to dive into the stuff, twist the **** out of all those sliders and buttons, and see what the hell I get

And by the way, FM7 is one of the hardest synths to learn, you might (in theory) be able to get some cool sounds out of it, but I abandonded it after weeks of playing with it. There's a few phat presets but you won't get very far unless you're experienced. FM7 is not, IMO, a very good trance synth for a beginner. It's HUGE and you're likely to not hear immediate effects of your changes because so many things are intertwined there. I would sugget z3ta+ (very cool for trance, ready to be used with pro sounds, and MUCH easier to learn), or maybe a simple freeware synth like Ganymed or Iblit. Both of these are quality, and they don't have that many settings and knobs so you can learn the basics easily.

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Originally posted by Eugene I personally learn not by reading manuals and tutorials but just by tweaking knobs myself and hearing what that does. All that scientific prose is too complicated for me, I just want to dive into the stuff, twist the **** out of all those sliders and buttons, and see what the hell I get And by the way, FM7 is one of the hardest synths to learn, you might (in theory) be able to get some cool sounds out of it, but I abandonded it after weeks of playing with it. There's a few phat presets but you won't get very far unless you're experienced. FM7 is not, IMO, a very good trance synth for a beginner. It's HUGE and you're likely to not hear immediate effects of your changes because so many things are intertwined there. I would sugget z3ta+ (very cool for trance, ready to be used with pro sounds, and MUCH easier to learn), or maybe a simple freeware synth like Ganymed or Iblit. Both of these are quality, and they don't have that many settings and knobs so you can learn the basics easily.

yeah i here you on that...but personally i'm a big dork and i like to read the manuals so i get a head start...and then tweak the fuck out of it hehehe...and the good thing is their complexity...after you get over the hump you are set....its all about as many knobs as you can get hehehehe...

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Originally posted by Eugene I personally learn not by reading manuals and tutorials but just by tweaking knobs myself and hearing what that does. All that scientific prose is too complicated for me, I just want to dive into the stuff, twist the **** out of all those sliders and buttons, and see what the hell I get And by the way, FM7 is one of the hardest synths to learn, you might (in theory) be able to get some cool sounds out of it, but I abandonded it after weeks of playing with it. There's a few phat presets but you won't get very far unless you're experienced. FM7 is not, IMO, a very good trance synth for a beginner. It's HUGE and you're likely to not hear immediate effects of your changes because so many things are intertwined there. I would sugget z3ta+ (very cool for trance, ready to be used with pro sounds, and MUCH easier to learn), or maybe a simple freeware synth like Ganymed or Iblit. Both of these are quality, and they don't have that many settings and knobs so you can learn the basics easily.

but man.... after you learn some stuff about the different parts of synths (LFO's, Filters...), playing around with the knobs becomes much more effective...

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