i personally feel uefa can ban a country just cuz some few of the fans are violent. they should rather ban the violent ppl and let the game be the game and not who hit who on the outside of the field....

and what country is this guy from`?

cuz i have this weird feeling every once in a while that france controlls the uefa and fifa commmites

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He's German.

But hey, that shouldn't be a problem, when it comes to football the Germans love England

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i personally feel uefa can ban a country just cuz some few of the fans are violent. they should rather ban the violent ppl and let the game be the game and not who hit who on the outside of the field

Exactly. And we're not the only country to cause trouble, why do we have to take the rap for it! The Slovaks and the Swiss have shot England fans this year and the only reason England fans are so worked up about Turkey is because of all the violence in Istanbul when they murdered those Leeds fans. And what about those Georgian fans throwing a penknife, a bottle and whatever else at the Irish players? I don't see UEFA threatening to ban these countries.

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UEFA seem to discriminate against the English because of their history, they have done nothing in Italy against the inheritant racism for example and give very little credit to England for reducing hooliganism and for virtually kicking racism out of the English game.

the english fa are a bunch of pussies tho when it comes 2 internatonal matters yet they are right ****s on home turf. if we get kicked out i don't see the violence ending, it will just increase at other international sporting events as payback.

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I think you may have a point, we do seem to be lying back and taking it, or at least the FA is. The FA should be out there exposing this injustice, instead of sheepishly saying "lads, please behave, they're on our backs" to the nation's fans. Ten or twenty years down the line noone will remember whether England were rightly or wrongly kicked out, they will just remember the fact that we were kicked out and immediately think badly of us, it will set a precedent and scar our name for a long time, we need to fight this not bow down to the pressure.

I think England are the victim of a witch hunt here, look at the escalating violence in places like Italy and Turkey, some of these matches are becoming like warzones and somewhere along the line the English have got the blame! I would say England has done more than any other nation to stop hooliganism in the last 10 years, yet still we are subject to these immature stereotypes by Aigner and his henchmen, determined to offload the blame.

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i really don't think they will be able to kick us out no matter what, or at least i hope so

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England v Slovakia tonight.

Howay Lads!

hehe look at him, he has big ears.

i think itd be a disgrace if england get chucked out, and if that did, the fans who are the cause of it would just get worse the next time we are in a competition. you dont see turky getting banned do you, look at all the violence thay have caused with international and club games.

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ah well, a win and no trouble, getting there

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They threaten to kick England out of Euro 2004 because the fans ran on to the pitch when we scored, therefore they better do something similar (imo harsher) to Turkey. In there match against Macedonia, the turkish fans constantly threw objects at the opposition players, actually striking one of them. This is a lot more serious than what happened at the Stadium of Light and this sort of action occurs alot more in Turkey than in England.

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The FA have decided not to take up England's ticket allocation for both the Macedonia and Turkey games. In other words England fans aren't allowed see their own team

BBC links:
FA rejects Macedonia tickets
FA turns down Turkey tickets

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The Football Association has decided not to take up its ticket allocation for England's next Euro 2004 qualifier in Macedonia. The governing body is still concerned that another outbreak of trouble in Macedonia on 6 September could lead to England being thrown out of the competition.

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"It was the unanimous view of the Board that the FA should not take its allocation of tickets for the match against Turkey," read a statement on the FA website. "This decision was reached after wide consultation and with a view to the safety and security of all fans, Turkish and English.

The FA need to sort out where they actually stand in all of this. Does anyone really think banning fans from watching their beloved sport is going to solve anything??? This whole thing is becoming a farce, can anyone tell me this heinous crime which only England have committed, I'd love to hear it.