I know what phasing is and the principles behind it but i have a question. I rarely hear phasing in a major DJ set despite the fact that i have heard them get slightly off beat plenty of times. why is it that almost everytime i get slightly off i get phasing and they almost never do? is it the equipt? i realize that slamming in a new bass line while killing the other will eliminate this prob but i want more seemless mixes. any comments or suggestions?

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do you use the low eq's for both channels as your crossing?

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Originally posted by Sharpy do you use the low eq's for both channels as your crossing?

yup

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Well, there's three things I can think of:
1) Use of bass EQ (as mentioned, but the point probably can't be overstated - this is fairly important for smooth mixes)
2) Careful track selection (some bass lines have worse phasing than others - just mix tracks that seem to have less of a problem with each other)
3) Great technique (i.e. ensuring the tracks are perfectly offset so that the phasing is not noticible or does not occur)
4) If you're listening in a club the phasing is much harder to spot due to the loud volume

OK, so that's four things, but I only thought of the last one when I was writing the others

One tip on bass EQ - it's not necessary to use extreme amounts of EQ to get good results. If you've got them, don't simply rely on the bass kill switch!

i dont have kill switches and even if i did i prefer to use the knobs.

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oooh no, I thought that too... But since I have them, I use them all the time

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Originally posted by Push2005 Ik ben net terug begonnen met cassettes op te kopen... Die pitchcontrol is echt ongelofelijk !

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Originally posted by TranceInMySoul 4) If you're listening in a club the phasing is much harder to spot due to the loud volume

In a club, if this is where you are comparing your beatmatching to theirs, the volume difference matters very much how it sounds to the crowd. If you play in a club, the volume will cover up quite a few mixtakes (vocab@JohnSmith) that you will easily hear at lower volumes or in headphones. Is this where you are listening to them? Also, if you are comparing your beatmatching to proffessionally mastered CDs, then don't even bother. They fix them up digitally to the point that you can't even tell that they were mixed by a person.

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When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.

i understand that playing in a club covers mistakes. most of the sets i am comparing myself to are live sets recorded in a club. how are mistakes covered if i am listening to the set at a normal volume on my stereo? and if they are not covered what the heck are they doing that i am not? i am not comparing myself to studio sets/cds or the actual sound in the club.

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If you can tell that the sets are recorded in a club, then they are not recorded directly from a mixer...and that is the way a lot of "live" sets are mixed. It's almost a bootleg recording which is taken from the audience. The recording, if you can hear the crowd, will sound the same as it would as if you were listening to it at club volumes.

It's all going to depend on how it was recorded or if it was remastered before it was released. Unless you do the actual recording, you'll never truely know.

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When you dance, the DJ takes you on a journey, but he or she is usually not the focus of your experience at a club or festival or wherever you hear the music. Dancing is. Music is.

As for matching the basslines/bass hits in a club, I'd imagine that if you have good noise-cancelling headphones, you can test the matching process as you do it, by running the master signal through your heaphones and listen to both simultaneously (if the mixer supports it). I do it that way at home to try and match the basslines, but the bass hits I should begin matching too....thnx 4 the idea/reminder.

If I were you, I'd compare to whichever media you're practicing towards most....for a club set or for a mix-CD recorded set.

And as for the EQing.... I already know that proper EQing is the key. kill switches are amazing, but you gotta know when more than how to use them.

== my 2 cents

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most of the sets that i have and listen to were broadcast on the radio from a club. i assume that the radio stations are streaming directly from the soundboard so the bootleg recordings is not the answer here. any more suggestions. thanks for all the help so far.

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it goes from the club, to the station through all sorts of compressors and other technical tid bits that i don't know the names of.

theres another thread about this kind of thing somewhere arounbd here.

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