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jamie
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Registered: Aug 2002
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Crap Design? - Discuss



OH my god... they get worse!


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decode
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LOL thats pathetic.

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DJ Mikey Mike
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Registered: Jan 2002
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oh dear

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DJ Mikey Mike
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anyoen going to this btw?

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dstrukt
TSN - Exerciser of souls



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: London

Ok i might upset some folk by disagreeing with you here so i apologuise upfront.

Firstly GC's Creative and Brand ID is produced By TDR, now being a designer myself i hold a lot of respect for these guys mainly due to them having a huge positive impact on the design scene.

Now for me personally i adore what they have done with GC, taking away all this cheesy garbage you see on the electronic music scene. I wont go into more depth about this as you'll all wanna punch me very hard on the nose.

Ive said this a hundred times before; the trance scene contains the worse sense of design and creative thinking ive seen out of all the other genres of music there is. Now hopefully once myself and Magnasoma finish Mike Shiver's and Ronski Speed's sites people might be able see how much trance is needing good design. Im sorry for going on abit here and i know that i sound like im blowing smoke up mine and Mag's ass BUT ive been a designer for 4 years now and have got pretty far up the ladder and yes...fuck it i will say it. I know what im talking about.

We should all be grateful for TDR and what they have done with GC.

Again sorry for pissing anyone off.

Yours truely
Christophe

Old Post Jul-04-2003 12:44  United Kingdom
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jamie
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Warwick

quote:
Originally posted by dstrukt
Ok i might upset some folk by disagreeing with you here so i apologuise upfront.

Firstly GC's Creative and Brand ID is produced By TDR, now being a designer myself i hold a lot of respect for these guys mainly due to them having a huge positive impact on the design scene.

Now for me personally i adore what they have done with GC, taking away all this cheesy garbage you see on the electronic music scene. I wont go into more depth about this as you'll all wanna punch me very hard on the nose.

Ive said this a hundred times before; the trance scene contains the worse sense of design and creative thinking ive seen out of all the other genres of music there is. Now hopefully once myself and Magnasoma finish Mike Shiver's and Ronski Speed's sites people might be able see how much trance is needing good design. Im sorry for going on abit here and i know that i sound like im blowing smoke up mine and Mag's ass BUT ive been a designer for 4 years now and have got pretty far up the ladder and yes...fuck it i will say it. I know what im talking about.

We should all be grateful for TDR and what they have done with GC.

Again sorry for pissing anyone off.

Yours truely
Christophe


I agree with you, TDR did some of the most eye catching and creative designs, e.g Discotech Gen Album etc, but since the beginning of this year they have gone for this different style which may be different just looks, rushed, unprofessional (like they had a 2yr old in the office with some crayons)

There are some real good designs out there, In my opnion, that thing up there *points up the thread* is not.


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dstrukt
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Registered: Jul 2001
Location: London

I see you point mate but im just trying to think of any other clubs thats creative branding comes anywhere close to GC.

I dont wanna sound like a fanatic TDR fan coz im not. Simon Needham can and sometimes be a complete asshole, but i totally respect them as a creative firm.

I suppose at the day it comes down to personal preference which is cool

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sykadelik
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Bristol

This looks quality, will be going to this. The design is ok give gc its own house style i spose. When u think gc u think childish doodles.

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evil_bastard
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quote:
Originally posted by dstrukt
Ok i might upset some folk by disagreeing with you here so i apologuise upfront.

Firstly GC's Creative and Brand ID is produced By TDR, now being a designer myself i hold a lot of respect for these guys mainly due to them having a huge positive impact on the design scene.

Now for me personally i adore what they have done with GC, taking away all this cheesy garbage you see on the electronic music scene. I wont go into more depth about this as you'll all wanna punch me very hard on the nose.

Ive said this a hundred times before; the trance scene contains the worse sense of design and creative thinking ive seen out of all the other genres of music there is. Now hopefully once myself and Magnasoma finish Mike Shiver's and Ronski Speed's sites people might be able see how much trance is needing good design. Im sorry for going on abit here and i know that i sound like im blowing smoke up mine and Mag's ass BUT ive been a designer for 4 years now and have got pretty far up the ladder and yes...fuck it i will say it. I know what im talking about.

We should all be grateful for TDR and what they have done with GC.

Again sorry for pissing anyone off.

Yours truely
Christophe


So what if trance isn't fussed on design? Isn't that what separates it from stuff like r'n'b or rap or pop? The last thing we want is a load of posers conforming to a certain 'style' rather than just enjoying the music.

Rather than focusing on the people behind the flyer, what about the flyer itself? In my opinion, that flyer would probably attract the wrong people. It depends on individual taste I suppose - I don't think I would enjoy the kind of crowd that would attract.

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Misty Kitty
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Registered: Mar 2003
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i like the ideas i get from the design, i dont think it will necessarily attract the wrong crowd, i do think it could of bin excecuted better. Pretty in pink though.

(looks like they r calling it 'crasher' already, nice visual for swapping the name for the onslaught of the new club)

Design isn't what i think separates trance from rnb etc.... its a lifestyle, n trance is much less in the material more about the experience (hence my disdane in new crasher club).

trance is also very much on the internet (we wouldnt all b here without), n the internet is the place for design, i think the two go well together as they are both an experience whether this is visual or aural. I would love to have a more visual/trance encounter, lasers are fakking grt but they could utilize them much more to completely submerge u into the music.

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magnasoma
TSN - The Gamemaster



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: London

that kind of design, altho it looks easy, is pretty hard to do properly. Its easy to do badly tho, just open up photoshop and draw.

The whole 80's throwback punk/electro thing is actually pretty relevant for trance - its like a grown up design-take on cyber, as in the cyber u wear, not the cyber u listen to. Which for me anyway has the GC feel about it. You see, trance visuals and graphics are REALLY REALLY crap on the whole. Dance and house have got it pretty slick, but they just use photos of models, so its not exactly hard. Hed Kandi has got it fkin sorted. Their stuff owns - it defines their genre perfectly.

GC's older cd releases, all by tDR, have been good solid design pieces, like the global sound system cd, disco-tech etc but they really just are extensions of tDR's portfolio - the new stuff, from Residet 2 and the flyers we get here in london are a step away into a more original direction for them.

And yeah, there is one underlying factor that makes these babies a good piece of design. Whether you like it or not, it fkin werks. Its fluoro pink, white and black. You can't not notice it, so it does its job. And that's wot its all about at the end of the day.


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Technaut
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hehe whether it is hard to do or not, that flyer looks very crappy imo.

It just doesnt look stylish - something that GC promotion thingys always used to have i loved the old album styles :d but i think the newer ones are a cop out


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