http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3087785.stm

Perhaps a 2003 French AND American version should be reissued to the French and American public?

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Jesus Christ, this is getting fucking annoying. When people don't have a real a real news story to cover, they bash the French. Have these journalists (and people who suppourt their article) no lives? Goddamn it, I'm not even French and it pisses me off. All you see these days is French-bashing.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 Jesus Christ, this is getting fucking annoying. When people don't have a real a real news story to cover, they bash the French. Have these journalists (and people who suppourt their article) no lives? Goddamn it, I'm not even French and it pisses me off. All you see these days is French-bashing.

I don't think the article is bashing the French. The article is covering a manual that was published in 1945 for American GIs who were started to resent the French as post liberation tensions built. At any rate the manual provided answers to common misconceptions or gripes held by GIs about the French.

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I may have misread that...at any rate, i stil think that people have been going overboard with the anti-French sentiment.

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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 I may have misread that...at any rate, i stil think that people have been going overboard with the anti-French sentiment.

mmm true

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So sad. I doesn't think that this book really exists... In the same period Nazis said that jewish had some particularities (in the fucking book of A.H). Then, american do the same thing in a book : French had some particularities... Be careful, there is troubling similarities.

Oh my god, it's horrible to write this books. Sorry, I can't continue in english... Je suis touché. J'espère que personne ne crois plus à ca. C'est indigne de la part des américains (en 1943).

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its interesting to see that while we americans bitched arrogantly and rudely, the french replied with a polite and calm manner

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Originally posted by fuct4less its interesting to see that while we americans bitched arrogantly and rudely, the french replied with a polite and calm manner

Sigh ... people don't seem to be reading the article very carefully. The book, entitled 112 gripes about the French was written and issued by the US MILITARY to US GI'S in 1944 in an effort by the US GOVERNMENT to DISPEL irrational misconceptions and FOSTER greater understanding and relations between the FRENCH and the AMERICANS.

Now when I said before that a new 2003 version of 112 gripes about the French should be released in BOTH american and French versions, I was instigating that the US should release one to the American public to dispel ignorance about the French, and the French should release one in France about Americans to rid French misconceptions about Americans ... therefore fostering attitudes of greater understanding from BOTH people! Everybody clear??? Verstehen sie??? To sum things up, the publication was GOOD. And what the article TRIED to bring to the attention of all of you, was one of the gripes and responses:

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"Why should we care about the French? They have no weight in the post-war world," reads gripe 21. The reply: "Beyond questions of honour and simple decency, it would be diplomatically and politically stupid to cut ourselves off from a nation of 40 million allies. One day or another, we may need their help again."

Ironic no???? Considering that nowadays the US government has forgotten the response it gave itself to that gripe decades before! Understand??? Do you see??? DO YOU PEOPLE SEE???????

READ, UNDERSTAND, THEN RESPOND!

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"The toilets are lamentable," goes gripe 42. "In the metro it stinks of garlic, sweat and perfume," says gripe 46. "Why are the attendants at public urinals always women?" goes number 63. "I would like the French better if they were cleaner," says gripe 48, to which the authors can only reply: "That is perfectly understandable."

Thank you very much. This means that all french people isn't clean at all.

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"All French politicians are corrupt," goes complaint 108

In 1944, the french "official" government who collaborate with the nazis. It was Philippe Pétain. But the chief of the french free forces, le Général De Gaulle, at London trying to save freedom of french republic. Why say that french politicians are corrupt ?? Some politicians but not ALL.

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Their morals are loose and they smell terrible. They eat frogs.

Do you believe that i'm eating frogs ??? Pfff. It's an old piece of gossip.
And i'm smell terrible that's why we have de best fragrances in the world !!!

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The most unnerving section of the book deals with 13 gripes that show a preference for the pliant Germans over the unruly French. The Germans are law abiding, says gripe 71. They obey laws, the author agrees. Even barbaric ones. They obeyed Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler.

Yes, it's true. We can't obey to barbaric rules like nazis, communists...

Even if it is in english, I can say that, I've understand. But this book explain also how France helped american people to finish the independance war.

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Feystare, I think you're losing the main idea of the article in the translation from English to French. I'll try explaining it in english but Eugene, drummeraver, or malek should explain it to you in French.

The book is not a criticism of France. Many American GIs in 1944 held the belief that the french were corrupt, stinky, etc. What the book is trying to do is explain to Americans that the French are NOT stinky, NOT corrupt, etc. And the part that's confusing you I think is that the book is in a question and answer format.

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American Soldier's Gripe: "We spend our time getting the French out of scrapes. Have they ever done anything for us?"

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Uncle Sam's Answer: "Of course they have. They helped us out of an even worse scrape. During the American revolution, when nearly the whole world was against us or indifferent, France came to our aid and was our greatest benefactor."

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Thank you. No hard feelings !

Vive les Etats-Unis !

And may god bless america..........

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